ICRockets and Jatm, you were right

Blondie said:
No, actually it’s not. It’s not about whether someone agrees with us or not.

Trolls are bullies. Trolls on the internet are harassing people because they can. It’s a form of bullying.

Allowing trolls and bullying is not part of free speech and expression.. they use these forums to exploit people and people have been harmed, and YOU allow that.

The fact that you can’t figure this out, along with Tom from the zone and the shit from the Range is maddening to those who have tried to get you “owners” of these sites to recognize. YOU are ok with people bullying and harassing marginalized and vulnerable individuals who already don’t have many places to engage in political dialogue.

You’re not helping society out here, you’re just silencing people even more who are already don’t have adequate representation.

I’m sure you have some knee jerk reaction to this post and do little to no self reflection on what I have said.
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First, they aren't bullying me or anyone else. Yes, trolling can be very much bullying, but those marginalized individuals have all the power by simply ignoring them. Ignore works really well here. Ask Spike. Just qa few simple clicks and none of this argument ever happens. Ever. The fact that you and ICR would rather dictate who can and can't post here is one, insulting me, and two, a testament to your own character.
You would rather be right than just do what it takes to eliminate them from your BSV experience.

Shame too, I love your takes. I LOVE your political opinions, and I miss your book reviews. I like ICR's takes, most of the time, but I'm sorry, I will not be bullied, which is what you two are doing by banning people that I don't have a problem with.

I mean, I CAN invite some real bullies. The kind that you know would get violent if they had the chance to. They're all over the Range. They take stupid to whole new levels. Insurrectionist level cultists and maybe then you'd have a better or different perspective on these two.
 
HipKat said:
First, they aren't bullying me or anyone else. Yes, trolling can be very much bullying, but those marginalized individuals have all the power by simply ignoring them. Ignore works really well here. Ask Spike. Just qa few simple clicks and none of this argument ever happens. Ever. The fact that you and ICR would rather dictate who can and can't post here is one, insulting me, and two, a testament to your own character.
You would rather be right than just do what it takes to eliminate them from your BSV experience.

Shame too, I love your takes. I LOVE your political opinions, and I miss your book reviews. I like ICR's takes, most of the time, but I'm sorry, I will not be bullied, which is what you two are doing by banning people that I don't have a problem with.

I mean, I CAN invite some real bullies. The kind that you know would get violent if they had the chance to. They're all over the Range. They take stupid to whole new levels. Insurrectionist level cultists and maybe then you'd have a better or different perspective on these two.
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As long as you let these pieces of shit spew open bigotry they are preventing entire demographics from joining your website. If a Muslim Bills fan signs up and sees rampant Islamophobia going unchecked in the shoutbox the moment they log in for the first time they will leave and never look back. If you tell them that the solution is to put that user on ignore so they can go on to troll other people and that you shouldn't care as long as it doesn't happen where you can see it they will tell you to go fuck yourself and they'll be 1000000% right to do so.

My issue with people like bowman, buff, and tater isn't what they say to me. It's what they say to keep this place a cishet white dude safe haven and ONLY a cishet white dude safe haven. Putting them on ignore doesn't make them good people. As long as they remain bad people, they are harming your site.

But you don't care, because you CAN'T care about bad people and the harm they cause, because YOU ARE ALSO A BAD FUCKING PERSON.
 
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