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Trump demands return of Panama Canal if rates aren't cut​


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A ship passes through the Panama Canal. Photo: Martin Bernetti/AFP via Getty Images

President-elect Trump demanded Panamanian authorities either lower fees for U.S. ships to transit the Panama Canal, or return its control to the United States.
Why it matters: The U.S. ceded one of the world's most crucial pieces of infrastructure in 1999, and China has become increasingly influential in its operations since.

Catch up quick: Trump, in a lengthy series of Saturday evening posts to Truth Social, said American naval and commercial ships were being treated in an "unfair and injudicious way."
  • Trump blasted past administrations for returning the canal to Panama's control, which he called a "token of cooperation."
  • "If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question," Trump said.
The other side: Panama's president, Jose Raúl Mulino, posted a video on social media Sunday night rejecting Trump's demands.
  • "The sovereignty and independence of our country are not negotiable," Mulino said.
  • "Our canal has the mission to serve humanity and its commerce," Mulino added. "That is one of the greatest values that the Panamanians offer to the world."
The intrigue: Trump quoted Mulino's response on Truth Social and said "We'll see about that!"
  • He subsequently posted a picture of the American flag flying over the canal and the message "Welcome to the United States Canal!"
Context: Panama granted the U.S. the right to build the canal and control the land on either side in 1904.
  • In 1977 President Jimmy Carter signed a treaty that returned the canal to full Panamanian control by the end of 1999 in exchange for its permanent neutrality.
  • The canal has long been viewed as a tool of colonialism and colonial control. Panama sees the canal today as a key factor in its self -determination and national interest amid a changing global economy.
By the numbers: About 10,000 ships a year transit the canal, though in recent times severe drought has limited capacity and helped push transit rates higher.
  • The International Trade Administration estimates more than 70% of all ships transiting the canal are going to or from a U.S. port.
  • About 2.5% of all global maritime trade passes through the canal, per McKinsey.
Zoom out: China has invested heavily in operations in the Canal Zone in recent years, raising concerns about the zone's neutrality.
  • In 2021 the Center for Strategic and International Studies warned a "key decision point" was coming for U.S. interests in the region, given China's expansion.
  • The U.S. ambassador reportedly cautioned last year about the situation not escalating to where Panama has to choose between the U.S. and China.
What they're saying: Panamanian politicians blasted Trump's statement.
  • "This young Panamanian independent deputy will defend his country with his life if necessary," National Assembly member Manuel Alberto Samaniego Rodriguez posted on X, calling Trump's remarks "regrettable."
Trump, speaking Sunday at the Turning Point Action Conference in Phoenix, Arizona, called Panama's fees "ridiculous" and "highly unfair."
  • "The United States has a big and vested interest in the secure, efficient and reliable operation of the Panama Canal," he said.
  • It's falling into the wrong hands — it was not given for the benefit of others," Trump continued. "It was given with provisions, you have to treat us fairly and you are not treating us fairly."
 
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Blondie said:
Trump making America great again by began bully.. super
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Yup.

He has NOT even taken over the office and he has attempted to bully Canada, Mexico, Panama, the Uke, etc.

Wonder why he is hated worldwide except for the Zionists in Israel, Camel Jockeys in Saudi & area, Dictators in Hungary and Wannabes in Argentina, Philippines and a couple other Banana Republics.
 
SpikedLemonade said:
Yup.

He has NOT even taken over the office and he has attempted to bully Canada, Mexico, Panama, the Uke, etc.

Wonder why he is hated worldwide except for the Zionists in Israel, Camel Jockeys in Saudi & area, Dictators in Hungary and Wanna Be's in Argentina, Philippines and a couple other Banana Republics.
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Yup.
 
Lets see piss off Canada, piss off the Danes (though I could have sworn I read that Greenland was a sovereign nation state), piss off the Panamanians, get in a dick measuring contest with Chi-eye-na (how the fuck do you get three syllables out of China?) and lose, give Ukraine even more weapons and then probably boots on the ground when his peace plan has absolutely nothing Putin or Zelensky want (boots on the ground become targets, Russia hits those targets, we demand action for the loss of our boys, we hit Russian military bases, they hit our bases, we hit their cities, they hit ours, we send nukes they do too), fuck we're not gonna make it as a species are we? Well, its been a good 300,000 years. . . .
 
So funny, the guy who was going to suspend the Constitution now needs that document to fight off President-Elect Musk.

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herodotus said:
Lets see piss off Canada, piss off the Danes (though I could have sworn I read that Greenland was a sovereign nation state), piss off the Panamanians, get in a dick measuring contest with Chi-eye-na (how the fuck do you get three syllables out of China?) and lose, give Ukraine even more weapons and then probably boots on the ground when his peace plan has absolutely nothing Putin or Zelensky want (boots on the ground become targets, Russia hits those targets, we demand action for the loss of our boys, we hit Russian military bases, they hit our bases, we hit their cities, they hit ours, we send nukes they do too), fuck we're not gonna make it as a species are we? Well, its been a good 300,000 years. . . .
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Trump is beyond Retarded.

He is like Next Level Retarded.
 
cookin_peacocks said:
I have to assume he's "joking" here? There's no way he can actually believe it's that simple
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I have long suspected him of having syphilis. Yeah, Biden had cognition issues that should have caused him to step aside no later than sometime in 2022, but Trump has syphilis. Biden just has cognitive decline, Trump is going friggen insane before our eyes and the scary thing is that fucker was well on the road to insanity in term one. Rational people don't ask why can't we use nukes? Sane people don't go out of their way to piss people off. Annexing Canada, demanding control over Greenland, demanding a handover of the Canal zone? Fuck, its almost like a page out of It Can't Happen Here. Hey Donny, just an FYI, Lewis didn't write that as a how to guide. He wrote it as a warning dripping with vitriol and sarcasm.
 
cookin_peacocks said:
For. Fucks. Sake
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Lets look at the Hateometer, the authorized tool that records how long it took for me to hate, or at very least be bitterly disappointed by a president. This has been active since 2000, but not made official since 2004 (the first presidential election that I was old enough to vote in)

Bush 43 (March 2003, both official and unofficial)

Obama (March 2014, a complete rarity in that Obama left me more bitterly disappointed than hating him. Also, unlike any of the others on here he actually made well into his second term for me to dislike him. Yeah, no kidding he was a decent president.

Trump (April 2017, when he bombed Syria. Yeah I get it, Assad was a brutal dictator but his stunt did nothing but make a horrible civil war even worse)

Joe Biden (November 2021, I know I am in disagreement with lots of people here on this one, but yeah November 2021 when instead of constructive and firm diplomacy he started laying the final groundwork for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Look, if you are not going to back down on Ukraine joining NATO fine and good, but you had better not evacuate troops. Keeping US and NATO troops in Ukraine would have caused Putin to have some serious second thoughts because an invasion means Americans in bodybags and a very likely nuclear response)

Trump 47 (unofficially I still have not forgotten April 2017, but what the hell new president. So really it was November 2024 when I discovered that the man who "had nothing to do with writing Project 2025" has packed his cabinet and staff with damn near everyone who was a leading mind on that project).

Think about that for a second, take stock, he hasn't even been in office a day this term and I already hate the bastard. Worse, unlike Obama (relations with Cuba and Iran, ACA, green energy efforts), Biden (student loan relief efforts, trying to get people vaccinated), and even Bush (he did try to address the financial crash, albeit only AFTER the bankster class was in trouble), there is not jack shit that Trump has done or will do that is even remotely redeemable.
 
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