Trump Condemns Trans Prisoners to Death

Trump restores single-sex prisons, sending male inmates who identify as women back to men’s facilities​

Trump restores single-sex prisons, sending male inmates who identify as women back to men’s facilities

President Donald Trump has reinstated single-sex prison policies, resulting in the transfer of male inmates who identify as women back to male facilities.

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President Donald Trump has reinstated single-sex prison policies, resulting in the transfer of male inmates who identify as women back to male facilities.

According to a report by the New York Times, approximately 1,500 male federal prisoners identifying as women will be redirected to men’s facilities following President Trump’s executive order aimed at establishing single-sex prisons.

This executive order, titled “Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government,” also terminates transgender-related medical procedures for incarcerated individuals.

The Women’s Liberation Front (WoLF), a feminist organization advocating for single-sex prison systems and raising awareness regarding the vulnerability of incarcerated women to male violence,

has characterized President Trump’s decision as a significant victory. Currently, WoLF is actively engaged in efforts to challenge California legislation that permits inmates to request placement in facilities based on their gender identity rather than their biological sex.

Mr. Trump’s directive aligns with assertions that efforts to eliminate the biological reality of sex fundamentally undermine the dignity, safety, and well-being of women.

Advocates representing transgender individuals and inmates have criticized this order, asserting that it will place vulnerable populations at an increased risk of harm.

Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, which has advocated for transgender prisoners, stated, “There will be rapes and physical assaults as a result of this policy.”

She further noted the adverse impact on prison officials, who currently possess the discretion to determine the most appropriate measures for ensuring the safety and security of their facilities.

Legal experts have indicated that this directive is likely to face challenges in the judicial system.

Federal courts have established that prison systems have an obligation to protect vulnerable inmates and have also ruled that they must provide medical care,

including hormone therapies, to individuals diagnosed with gender dysphoria—the psychological distress arising from a dissonance between one’s physical body and gender identity.

In 2022, a federal district judge in Illinois mandated that the bureau provide gender-transition surgery to a transgender inmate, concluding that the denial of such treatment likely constituted a violation of the Eighth Amendment, which ensures the right to necessary medical care.

 

[ICRockets]

Republicans love rape and they want more of it, so this was a no-brainer for them.

 

[Blondie]

I can’t comment. It’s barbarism at its worst.

 

[HipKat]

I can’t comment. It’s barbarism at its worst.

Yes it is, and ICR knows I'm not overly supportive of Trans people but what's right is right.

 

[sukie]

So are there currently rules regarding identifying? Or is it a fluid feeling of any male inmate to identify as a woman… suddenly?

 

[ICRockets]

So are there currently rules regarding identifying? Or is it a fluid feeling of any male inmate to identify as a woman… suddenly?

Are you not capable of looking this up?

 

[cookin_peacocks]

Yes it is, and ICR knows I'm not overly supportive of Trans people but what's right is right.

Why aren't you overly supportive? People are people and deserve dignity

 

[HipKat]

Why aren't you overly supportive? People are people and deserve dignity

I took a pretty conservative stance on this. I understand that people deserve dignity, but they also deserve honesty. And I know that this is gonna get rockets all wound up, which I’m trying to avoid, but I adamantly do not support allowing children who are incapable of making complex decisions about their lives, make equally complex decisions about their gender and sexual identities.

At the same time, believing that you are something you’re not in every other instance is indicative of mental illness and some level. If I told you, I was a pterodactyl, you would think I was crazy if I adamantly stood my ground on that

When it comes to being trans, we allow these people to take their mental illness and delusions and turn them into their physical reality, pushed by a niche medical community that profit greatly off of this mental illness.

I understand that the issue is a lot more complex than how I stated it here, but this generalizes my opinion on the topic of transitioning, which we used to call transsexualism, but now that’s a dirty word.

 

[cookin_peacocks]

I took a pretty conservative stance on this. I understand that people deserve dignity, but they also deserve honesty. And I know that this is gonna get rockets all wound up, which I’m trying to avoid, but I adamantly do not support allowing children who are incapable of making complex decisions about their lives, make equally complex decisions about their gender and sexual identities.

At the same time, believing that you are something you’re not in every other instance is indicative of mental illness and some level. If I told you, I was a pterodactyl, you would think I was crazy if I adamantly stood my ground on that

When it comes to being trans, we allow these people to take their mental illness and delusions and turn them into their physical reality, pushed by a niche medical community that profit greatly off of this mental illness.

I understand that the issue is a lot more complex than how I stated it here, but this generalizes my opinion on the topic of transitioning, which we used to call transsexualism, but now that’s a dirty word.

I'm gonna say one thing and leave it.

Gender dysphoria is real. And gender affirming care is treatment. Gender affirming care has actually been studied and proven to lower suicidal thoughts and idolation. Science. Furthermore, kids aren't getting their genitals chopped off at a rate that should alarm anyone. Any minors undergoing procedures have been on the process for years and are usually really close to legal adulthood. There's like 3 times more minors getting breast enlargement surgery (a form of gender affirming care, BTW) and that number is in the single thousands across the country per year. I believe under 5k a year.

The number of people who have post trans regret is also an astronomically small number. Like 1 in a thousand.

So, to finish this up. Trans people are getting treatment that they need and is proven to work and improve peoples lives. And it hurts no one. It's all just a made up boogie man designed to oppress people most don't understand and certainly don't respect. And ultimately, it can save people's lives

If they're happy, be happy for em and let it go.

 

[ICRockets]

I took a pretty conservative stance on this. I understand that people deserve dignity, but they also deserve honesty. And I know that this is gonna get rockets all wound up, which I’m trying to avoid, but I adamantly do not support allowing children who are incapable of making complex decisions about their lives, make equally complex decisions about their gender and sexual identities.

At the same time, believing that you are something you’re not in every other instance is indicative of mental illness and some level. If I told you, I was a pterodactyl, you would think I was crazy if I adamantly stood my ground on that

When it comes to being trans, we allow these people to take their mental illness and delusions and turn them into their physical reality, pushed by a niche medical community that profit greatly off of this mental illness.

I understand that the issue is a lot more complex than how I stated it here, but this generalizes my opinion on the topic of transitioning, which we used to call transsexualism, but now that’s a dirty word.

In order to believe it's mental illness, you have to believe for example that trans women CANNOT under ANY circumstances actually be women.

In order for that belief to be valid, you must also believe there is some sort of necessary condition that a person must satisfy in order to be a woman.

What is that necessary condition?

 

[HipKat]

I'm gonna say one thing and leave it.

Gender dysphoria is real. And gender affirming care is treatment. Gender affirming care has actually been studied and proven to lower suicidal thoughts and idolation. Science. Furthermore, kids aren't getting their genitals chopped off at a rate that should alarm anyone. Any minors undergoing procedures have been on the process for years and are usually really close to legal adulthood. There's like 3 times more minors getting breast enlargement surgery (a form of gender affirming care, BTW) and that number is in the single thousands across the country per year. I believe under 5k a year.

The number of people who have post trans regret is also an astronomically small number. Like 1 in a thousand.

So, to finish this up. Trans people are getting treatment that they need and is proven to work and improve peoples lives. And it hurts no one. It's all just a made up boogie man designed to oppress people most don't understand and certainly don't respect. And ultimately, it can save people's lives

If they're happy, be happy for em and let it go.

Gender dysphoria is real. I accept that. And regret for transitioning is that a large number of people, but it is a growing number of people.

You’re wrong about one thing though and that’s that children are being subjected to gender altering surgery. There are publicized cases of girls who were given double mastectomy as young as 11, 12 and 13 years old.

I find it appalling that children are allowed to engage in cosmetic surgery before they are even close to an age that in every other case, we agree is acceptable for making complex decisions, and that being in their early 20s.

You say that allowing them to transition or gender, affirming care as you call it, is proven to work. Work at what? Appeasing them? Isn’t giving an alcoholic alcohol also going to work because it appeases them? Isn’t giving drugs to a drug addict in the same realm?

 

[HipKat]

In order to believe it's mental illness, you have to believe for example that trans women CANNOT under ANY circumstances actually be women.

In order for that belief to be valid, you must also believe there is some sort of necessary condition that a person must satisfy in order to be a woman.

What is that necessary condition?

I really don’t care if they want to identify as women. As long as we agree that there’s a difference between woman and female, and when it comes to that, I will stick with the biology. XX chromosome, female XY chromosome male.

The necessary condition being the rare genetic instances that supports being trans

 

[cookin_peacocks]

Gender dysphoria is real. I accept that. And regret for transitioning is that a large number of people, but it is a growing number of people.

You’re wrong about one thing though and that’s that children are being subjected to gender altering surgery. There are publicized cases of girls who were given double mastectomy as young as 11, 12 and 13 years old.

I find it appalling that children are allowed to engage in cosmetic surgery before they are even close to an age that in every other case, we agree is acceptable for making complex decisions, and that being in their early 20s.

You say that allowing them to transition or gender, affirming care as you call it, is proven to work. Work at what? Appeasing them? Isn’t giving an alcoholic alcohol also going to work because it appeases them? Isn’t giving drugs to a drug addict in the same realm?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It happens in extremely rare cases. And after years of treatment.

And again, trans regret is also extremely rare.

The fact is, these people are just living their lives and the fact that it's a spotlight and lightning rod to outsiders to air their disapproval from far away interest and not even consider the person's feelings is a problem on its own.

vivere et vivere

 

[Tatertot]

I am fine with trans folks. Any physical changes that requires surgery should not be allowed until the individual is of legal age. Also no tax payer should fund such surgeries. Any trans surgery should be out of pocket cost to the individual. Just my 2 cents.

 

[ICRockets]

I really don’t care if they want to identify as women. As long as we agree that there’s a difference between woman and female, and when it comes to that, I will stick with the biology. XX chromosome, female XY chromosome male.

The necessary condition being the rare genetic instances that supports being trans

We absolutely agree there's a difference between woman and female. So what is the necessary condition for fitting into the category of woman?

If there isn't one, then trans women identifying as women cannot be considered mentally ill for doing so.

 

[HipKat]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It happens in extremely rare cases. And after years of treatment.

And again, trans regret is also extremely rare.

The fact is, these people are just living their lives and the fact that it's a spotlight and lightning rod to outsiders to air their disapproval from far away interest and not even consider the person's feelings is a problem on its own.

vivere et vivere

Don’t get me wrong, I have no desire to pee on anybody living their lives unless they’re doing something immoral or illegal. But like the examples I used if we give free drugs to drug addicts are we just letting them live their lives? And are those lives we want them to leave?

 

[HipKat]

We absolutely agree there's a difference between woman and female. So what is the necessary condition for fitting into the category of woman?

If there isn't one, then trans women identifying as women cannot be considered mentally ill for doing so.

The only necessary condition is whatever One prefers to be identified as. I mean, man or woman is just a label.

 

[HipKat]

I am fine with trans folks. Any physical changes that requires surgery should not be allowed until the individual is of legal age. Also no tax payer should fund such surgeries. Any trans surgery should be out of pocket cost to the individual. Just my 2 cents.

I agree, but the argument you’ll get is that trans health is as important as any other type of healthcare.

 

[ICRockets]

I agree, but the argument you’ll get is that trans health is as important as any other type of healthcare.

Because it is.

 

[ICRockets]

The only necessary condition is whatever One prefers to be identified as. I mean, man or woman is just a label.

So then it's not a mental illness. The comparison you're making is not one that holds water. Trans women ARE women, so you're not enabling anything unhealthy by affirming that.