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A True Crime Show. Dedicated to bringing cold cases back into the light, investigating missing persons cases, and telling true crime stories that have been forgotten. These stories are told through an interview-based concept, in order to not just re-tell what has already been told, but instead, getting the story directly from the detectives, reporters, victims, and families who were there.

The FIRST Season was a case where I live, in fucked up Pekin, IL.

Robert Bee or What is Wrong With Pekin.

I finished watching the Ashes To Ash TV series and did some sniffing around with the help of a friend who grew up in and still lives in and has been involved in that drug community. Funny thing about Pekin, well, that part of Pekin. Everyone is connected by either family or the drug culture or just being generationally a part of the community.

About halfway through, I said to my GF that people know exactly what happened. People are getting away with it. But the people who know aren't just the ones who were there, because drug addicts can't keep their mouths shut.

I have a friend who grew up in that area, still lives in that area, ran with most if not all of those people when that person was involved in that drug culture and I talked to that friend last night who admitted that they know everything. I'm not going to say my friend's name because that person is no longer involved with that culture but still lives right there. My friend knew all those people and said that the truth is known. Told me exactly what happened. Things that weren't in the series and I believe that the final theory is very close to what happened.

And I don't know many people in Pekin, I have no ties to that drug community or that neighborhood - other than my friend, but funny how I recognized some people and some names. Like Theresa Vancil. Never met her but she WAS on my friends list on an alternate FB profile I have and I remember around that time, her being extraordinarily frazzled and then a few years ago, hightailing it out of Pekin, to Havana. I have seen enough of her posts on most of her FB pages to not be shocked by her part in the story

The discrepancy between the two Josh's not difficult. One you can connect all the ties to and the other one doesn't show up in a search.

Most of the theory of the kid dying in the yellow house is definitely true. Whether he fell or got pushed or never did tumble down those stairs is not clear, except to the people that were there. If you watched the series and you think you know what happened, you're probably right.

My question is, according to my friend, what happened to the kid is no secret. Why aren't Pekin Police closing this case? I can understand washing the hands of a kid in the system that they don't have to deal with now - in the beginning, but after all of this, why not just close it?

Why is the kid's mother off to Lasalle, like nothing happened when any other parent would be screaming to get justice?

Why hasn't anyone followed up on the material harvested from under the 474 bridge and compared it to the remains they did ID?

I guess a number of those people are now in jail for other things, have moved on, are dead like the Kendra girl, or still around fully cognizant of being monsters that roam the streets of this city.

The whole thing breaks my heart.

 
I’ve watched the first one, and plan on finishing it. I watch a lot of true crime/interrogation videos. I find it fascinating, wondering why things go down the way they do, why people do the things they do…..

Seems like mom Lisa is a pig, making her kid live in filth. But child services being there 100 times is a TOTAL failure in the system..
 
I’ve watched the first one, and plan on finishing it. I watch a lot of true crime/interrogation videos. I find it fascinating, wondering why things go down the way they do, why people do the things they do…..

Seems like mom Lisa is a pig, making her kid live in filth. But child services being there 100 times is a TOTAL failure in the system..
I posted about this on the Pekin page on FB and it has blown up!! A lot of people are coming out of the woodwork. I'll fill you in more when you've finished it and thanks for watching it! This is the town I live in, BTW.
 
These stories are always sad, and mostly similar. And for every one that you hear about, there’s many more you don’t.

I’ve watched 3 episodes of the 8, and it’s mostly finger-pointing and accusations, and I don’t know if the mom was medicated during her interview, but she seemed medicated, and couldn’t seem to keep her story straight.

I’m not a fan of documentarians putting themselves in the story, but I might have missed why.

I feel this could have been a one or two hour documentary without all the “on the way to” and “in pursuit of”.

But it was cool seeing the bearded guy with a Buffalo hat on. Do you know why?
 
These stories are always sad, and mostly similar. And for every one that you hear about, there’s many more you don’t.

I’ve watched 3 episodes of the 8, and it’s mostly finger-pointing and accusations, and I don’t know if the mom was medicated during her interview, but she seemed medicated, and couldn’t seem to keep her story straight.

I’m not a fan of documentarians putting themselves in the story, but I might have missed why.

I feel this could have been a one or two hour documentary without all the “on the way to” and “in pursuit of”.

But it was cool seeing the bearded guy with a Buffalo hat on. Do you know why?
I didn't even notice him!!
The mother is indicative of a very low-income, low-education culture where drugs and alcohol are part of everyday life. Pekin is over-filled with people just like her.
Some of the people in the series, I'm not familiar with, I've crossed paths with. Theresa Vancil, for one, who is a nutcase.

Keep watching, the evidence leads down a completely different path that turns out to be there might one and exposes a hands-off policed dept that refuses to move on the people responsible
 
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