Bills vs Chiefs 2.0

Predict the outcome

  • Bills by 1-4

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Bills by 5-9

    Votes: 4 57.1%
  • Bills by 10+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chiefs by 1-4

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Chiefs by 5-9

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chiefs by 10+

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Total voters
    7
We all knew this day would come. To be the best, you have to beat the best. We had a shot at home last year and McDed it away. Will this year be the one? .... Last year all I heard was that getting them at home in a "down year" would be it. It wasn't. This year its all about how bad they look, how lucky they have been and yet here they are again one win from another SB trip. For whatever reason, they are still the team to beat and the benchmark. Make no mistake about it dudes. We need a better effort than the one from last week. Travis Kelce will not drop 2 passes and fumble on a key drive. Mahomes is not a playoff choker like Lamar. Bills need to get the lead like they usually do and then GO FOR THE KILL, McD needs to stop the bullshit foot off the gas to kill clock thing he does time and time again. There is no other way.

In Josh Allen I believe. McD, please stay away.



Homer, prediction with my heart



Bills 31

Evil ref darlings 23

Lets go to the big dance guys!







In all honesty. I think we fuck it up again. Allow Kelce to score 2 more times and go over 100 by having him roam free like its some sort of great plan. DL disappears as usual and gets to Mahomes never wile allowing 100+ on the ground.



Chiefs 24

Bills 20
 
I don’t care if the Bills are up by 40 starting the 3rd quarter.

DON’T NEUTER ALLEN like they did last week. And it could have easily cost them the game.

It’s almost like if the Bulls asked MJ to stop scoring starting the 3rd quarter. Makes ZERO sense.
 
Josh needs to gain control out of the gate. Then start having fun. When Josh is having fun great things happen.

I voted Bills 5-9 but this game makes me uneasy. PT13SD
 
Maybe if we had a good DT playing in place of Ed Oliver they could get to Mahomes. Oliver steals Pegula's money. He blows.
 

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NFL defenses decided in 2021 that if Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen could stay patient and consistently beat them underneath, they could live with it. From that point, the defensive meta changed.

Teams started trying to limit explosive passes and for a time it worked. Mahomes and Allen responded by becoming ruthlessly efficient quarterbacks.

The two quarterbacks will face off in the postseason for the fifth time when the Buffalo Bills visit the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game at 6:30 p.m. ET Sunday. This matchup isn’t just about the quarterbacks, their respective franchises have done great jobs of building teams that counter how defenses have tried to slow down their gunslingers. How will each defensive coordinator game plan around stopping the opposing team’s auxiliary parts and then worry about Allen’s and Mahomes’ ability to create second-reaction plays?

Stopping the Bills’ run game

The Bills ran all over the NFL’s top two rushing defenses in the playoffs. In the regular season, the Denver Broncos had the highest success defensive success rate against the run and the Baltimore Ravens were second. Playing those two teams in the wild-card and divisional rounds, the Bills combined for 362 yards on 75 rushes (4.8 yards per carry) with a rushing success rate of 57.5 percent (not including kneeldowns). The Bills’ offensive line, tight ends and fullback have been plowing over everything in their way.

Though the Chiefs finished 14th in defensive rushing success rate, in Week 11 (a 30-21 Buffalo win), they limited the Bills’ run game, holding their running backs to only 2.6 yards per carry, and didn’t give up one explosive run on designed rushes.

The Chiefs didn’t have edge defender Charles Omenihu in that game, but the Bills running game has improved. Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo will be creative with mixing up their front, moving around linebacker Leo Chenal. Chenal is unique because he can play off-ball linebacker, but he also can hold his ground like a defensive lineman at the line of scrimmage. Trying to confuse the Bills’ blocking scheme by changing fronts before the snap will give the Chiefs’ front its best shot at stopping this run game. Kansas City’s secondary is also excellent at tackling and does a good job of limiting explosive runs.

No good answers against Allen

The Bills offense lacks explosive receiving weapons. Slot receiver Khalil Shakir is the most reliable and productive option — he’s been the Bills’ leading receiver in the playoffs and had eight receptions for 70 yards against the Chiefs in Week 11. When the Chiefs played man in that game, Allen completed 7 of 11 passes for 123 yards and a touchdown and scrambled once for 9 yards.

Playing man coverage is a bet against the Bills receivers. With cornerback Jaylen Watson back, the Chiefs have the advantage against Buffalo’s receivers, but playing man coverage creates susceptibility to quarterback scrambles. Bills offensive coordinator Joe Brady did an excellent job of scheming up rub concepts to get receivers open in Week 11 and Buffalo targeted corner Nazeeh Johnson in man coverage on deep passes three times, completing two for 55 yards. Johnson won’t get a lot of playing time in Sunday’s matchup. Watson looked fine last week against the Houston Texans but was mainly used as part of double-teams on Nico Collins. He’ll likely be asked to play a lot of one-on-one on Keon Coleman, Amari Cooper or Mack Hollins. I’d expect the Bills to test him on the outside.

Sitting back in zone isn’t the answer against Allen either. Teams typically play Cover 2 when going with zone against Allen. He has been excellent at reading coverage rotations, staying patient and taking what the defense gives him. The best answer against Allen is to play two-deep match coverages like Cover 4 and Cover 6.

Week 11, 15:00 remaining in the third quarter, first-and-10

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This is an example of the Chiefs using Cover 4 against the Bills from Week 11. To the three-receiver side, they are essentially playing a Cover 4 deep with corner and safety playing deep zones. On the other side, corner Trent McDuffie has Cooper one-on-one on the outside. The safety to his side, Justin Reid, is looking for a deep crossing route from the three-receiver side rather than helping McDuffie.

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The Chiefs executed and covered each route. Theoretically, the best place to go against this coverage is to Cooper, but McDuffie disrupted Cooper’s route and Allen had to check the ball down.

But it’s hard to play these coverages against the Bills’ gap scheme running game. If the Chiefs can get the Bills into passing situations, they have some answers because they can trust their defensive backs to play one-on-one on the outside in match coverages or man-to-man when they blitz. You don’t typically say this against a Josh Allen team, but everything hinges on how well the Chiefs stop the Bills’ running game.

Chiefs’ offense improved since Week 11

Buffalo’s offense could help its defense by putting points on the board and forcing the Chiefs into a passing script. Bills defensive coordinator Bobby Babich surprised the Ravens with an uncharacteristically aggressive game plan to stop running back Derrick Henry in the first half last week. The Ravens eventually found some answers but it was too little too late. The reality is that the Bills’ defense isn’t very talented. Defensive end Greg Rousseau, defensive tackle Ed Oliver, cornerback Christian Benford and linebacker Matt Milano are the best players. While the defense improved when Milano returned to the starting lineup in Week 12, he still hasn’t quite played at the level we are used to seeing from him. Starting safety Taylor Rapp didn’t practice Thursday and looks like a long shot to play.

The Chiefs’ offense has steadily improved with receiver Marquise Brown returning from IR, rookie receiver Xavier Worthy taking some big steps forward in his development, tight end Travis Kelce flipping the playoff switch and left guard Joe Thuney giving the Chiefs the best left tackle play that they’ve had in years. The Chiefs overcame a big trench mismatch against the Texans and did enough to win. They should have an easier time moving the ball against a Bills defense that ranks 19th in points allowed per drive in games that Milano played.

The Texans played a lot of single-high against the Chiefs and challenged their receivers because they have two very talented corners in Derek Stingley Jr. and Kamari Lassiter. In Week 11, the Bills played man coverage at their fourth-highest rate of the season (30.8 percent). The strategy worked. Mahomes’ EPA per dropback against man was minus-0.29, whereas his EPA per dropback against zone was 0.29. Will the Bills try to challenge the Chiefs’ receivers with Brown back in the lineup? If they do, the Chiefs will take some deep shots with Brown against cornerback Rasul Douglas.

On passing downs, the Bills have used a strategy called “Odd Mirror” for years to contain Mahomes.

Week 11 1:14 remaining in the fourth quarter, fourth-and-13

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Odd mirror is a three-man rush in which the pass rush forces the quarterback in one direction. On this play, edge rusher Von Miller, lined up to the left of the image, takes an inside rush to get Mahomes to flush in that direction. The spy on this play was Dorian Williams — Milano typically plays this role and will be the spy in the AFC Championship. But instead of having to guess and react to where Mahomes goes, the spy in this scheme knows exactly where he will go because it’s designed to flush him to the defense’s left.

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As soon as Mahomes moves to the defense’s left, Williams triggers to pressure him. For some reason, the Chiefs had Thuney just shuffle in front of Williams when the Bills called odd mirror.

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Williams pressured Mahomes into throwing the game-ending interception. Perhaps in the AFC Championship, they’ll have Thuney try to cheat toward the side the spy will trigger to, and block him.

This is an evenly matched game between two teams that have done a great job complementing their elite quarterbacks. The inferior unit in this game is the Bills’ defense and trying to defend against an improved Chiefs’ offense could prove to be the difference. Of course, you can never count Allen out, but he doesn’t have star pass catchers to lean on if the Bills fall behind. In an even matchup, you have to give the slight edge to the Chiefs who have been remarkably consistent in big games and big moments.
 
Then call Ed Oliver and ask him to actually show up and do something.
He had a solid game against Baltimore.
Mostly, do what they did the last two weeks; Keep Mahomes and our Defense OFF the field, don't make mistakes, especially drive-killing penalties and after the KC Defense has been worn down, start killing them with Allen's arm and legs
 
I picked against the Bills last week and I was wrong. Hope I am this week, too. I'm sure we are the better team but it's in KC - which will be loud as FUCK and no matter how many Mahomo lovers there who deny it, we're playing against the Zebra, team, also.
 
Ah hell, fuck this negativity, Bills 30, and it doesn't matter what the Chiefs score because they are literally incapable of scoring 30 points. If Josh gets the Bills to 30 they win they go to the fucking superbowl. This is why they need to go for the shootout model because the Chiefs have demonstrated all season that they can't score tds. Protect Josh and score points. Sure, use the run and use dinks and dunks but score seven every drive.
 

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When the Bills and Chiefs meet in the AFC Championship Game on Sunday, there likely won’t be anyone getting caught off-guard. That’s because of the sheer volume of games they have played against each other with Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes as the starting quarterbacks.

As rivals outside the division go, it’s hard to find a better one than these two AFC behemoths. Over the last five seasons, they have played each other eight times in the equivalent of a half-decade-long heavyweight fight.

Five regular season contests, in which the Bills have gone 4-1, and three playoff games, in which, famously, the Chiefs have gone 3-0. Because of the postseason success, the scorer’s table would clearly rule in favor of the Chiefs. But the Bills have reason to be optimistic that this will be the year, at long last, they get past the Chiefs in the postseason.

“It’s like a division game,” quarterback Josh Allen said. “With that comes familiarity. New wrinkles here and there throughout the game. But they know who we are, we know who they are. It literally just comes down to who executes well on Sunday.”

The last five times these teams have played, it’s been an instant classic, with a sixth likely on deck. Here’s our AFC Championship week Bills notebook.

Is there a big Josh Allen game loading?​

In their first two playoff games, the Bills combined their outstanding running game and a shutdown defensive effort to defeat the Broncos, and a takeaway spree to get the job done against the Ravens. The Bills have been winning in different ways all season, but usually it comes back to Allen, their MVP candidate, to push them over the top.

Against the Broncos, Allen played mistake-free football, putting the Bills in a position to succeed repeatedly, but they didn’t need him to have that over-the-top performance because of how well the running game was performing.

Against the Ravens, Allen was even less involved, passing for only 127 yards and rushing 10 times for 20 yards. Yes, he had a couple of touchdown runs, but it was nowhere near the level of dominance he displayed from Week 9 through the end of the year.

The Ravens game, in particular, had some uncharacteristic mistakes from Allen. Whether it was an errant pass that he normally hits, or not taking advantage of a throwing window that he did routinely throughout the year, he left some meat on the bone in the divisional round.

Allen has long been his own toughest critic. He is extremely hard on himself when he sees missed opportunities on film from the previous game. But it usually isn’t in a toxic way that impacts his next game negatively. By and large, he has an uncanny knack for taking the singular piece that he struggled with in the previous game and completely upending it the next week. Many times, it has led to a dominant game.

Allen hasn’t had to go through that all that often this season, considering it’s easily been the best full season of his career. Part of the reason is he has played within himself, so much so that he’s avoided the turnovers that haunted him in previous seasons.

But Allen has long internalized keeping himself sharp, and he will look for any little edge to push himself over the top for the following game. There certainly won’t be any lacking for motivation Sunday, considering his first-ever trip to the Super Bowl is on the line. But there’s a good chance Allen has just a bit extra this weekend, stemming from what he didn’t do in his previous outing. With Allen taking somewhat of a backseat these last two games, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he has one of those vintage Allen MVP-like games on Sunday.

What will the Chiefs do on third down?​

Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo has earned a certain reputation for how well he supplies pressure on an opponent at a clutch moment of a game. The Chiefs have the fifth-highest blitz rate of any team in the NFL this season, sending an extra rusher on 23 percent of their opportunities. But when it gets to third down, Spagnuolo ratchets up the pressure, sending an extra pass rusher 34.3 percent of the time. Against the Bills in Week 11, he bumped that up to a 40 percent blitz rate. The results were hit and miss, tied to one specific factor.

The Chiefs play a heavy amount of man coverage on third down, with a season-long rate of 39.1 percent, according to TruMedia. When the Chiefs sent a blitz at Allen on third down and gave the remaining coverage players the assignment of man-to-man, the Chiefs didn’t stop the Bills on third down a single time.

When the Chiefs played man coverage on six third-down opportunities, even without a blitz, the Bills went a perfect 6-for-6. When the Chiefs sent a blitz and played zone on the backend, the Bills were 0-for-3 on third-down attempts.

Those results make it very intriguing to see if Spagnuolo will flip his tendency to utilize man coverage at as high a rate as he usually does. Interestingly, last year in the postseason, the Chiefs used man coverage at the lowest rate of any of their matchups against the Bills dating to 2020. This will be one of the key chess moves of the matchup.

Locating Travis Kelce when the play breaks down​

As per usual, legendary Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce has saved his best for the postseason. Even with the Texans putting up a good fight last week against the Chiefs early, Kelce rocked them for a vintage game, gaining 117 yards and a key touchdown to help send the Chiefs back to another AFC Championship Game.

Defending Kelce when the ball gets snapped is of the utmost importance because of how in tune Mahomes is with Kelce to exploit weak areas of the defense. But when you add in how Kelce can improvise and find a weak spot when the play breaks down and Mahomes gets out of structure, that’s when the back-breaking plays come into the equation.

The last time around, the Bills had a very clear plan for Kelce and executed it for most of the game. If Mahomes moved off his spot, that would signal two things to the usually on-looking Bills zone defenders, who would bend their usual zone rules to make it all go.

One was to have whoever was closest to Mahomes make it tough on him, and two was for the defender in the middle of the field to turn his back to Mahomes and go find Kelce, sticking to him like glue.

The Bills used the same strategy when they had Tremaine Edmunds in previous years, and in Week 11 they utilized middle linebacker Terrel Bernard to do the same. It resulted in Kelce having one of his worst games of the season, catching only two passes for 8 yards. Mahomes was held without a rushing attempt.

While the Bills will have to use some new wrinkles on defense because the Chiefs will be expecting a similar approach, it’s an approach that has done well for the Bills in the past. And while it’s unlikely they duplicate the same stifling success against Kelce on the big stage of the AFC Championship Game, offering resistance to him taking over a game will be a massive key.

Quick hit key matchups​

DE A.J. Epenesa or Greg Rousseau vs. LT Joe Thuney — I believe, overwhelmingly, Rousseau is the potential X-factor of this game. I like his matchup against right tackle Jawaan Taylor with how Rousseau uses his length. And when Rousseau moonlights on the right side on third downs against the usual guard-turned-left tackle Thuney, this is a mismatch.

But don’t count out Epenesa’s X-factor potential in this game either. He can explode for a big game when he has a good matchup. And this would qualify as a good matchup for Epenesa.

DT Ed Oliver vs. LG Mike Caliendo — With Thuney at left tackle, Caliendo moves into the starting five, and that is a potential liability for the Bills defensive tackles to exploit. It starts with Oliver, who is the best at getting pressure from the interior defensive line. It’s likely that Caliendo gets a fair share of help, but if there is a one-on-one situation on a pass-rushing rep, it could yield big results. Keep an eye on Dawuane Smoot (third downs) and Jordan Phillips to pop for a big play or two, as well.

WR Khalil Shakir vs. NCB Chamarri Conner — Shakir had one of the toughest matchups against the Ravens, but that turns around this week. Conner is solid but susceptible to getting beat in man coverage, which the Chiefs do their fair share of, particularly on third down. With Jaylen Watson back for the Chiefs and having had a good game at boundary cornerback last week, along with the usually sterling Trent McDuffie, finding success between the numbers might be the sweet spot this weekend for the passing offense.

DT Chris Jones vs. RG O’Cyrus Torrence or C Connor McGovern — By now, you know full well what Chris Jones can do to a game. He is one of the biggest stars at his position. I expect the Bills to have a pretty defined plan for Jones when the Chiefs don’t blitz, which could yield some heavy double-team game planning. But if there’s an isolated one-on-one, it’s good to keep an eye on both of these matchups.

S Cole Bishop vs. WR deep speed — With starting safety Taylor Rapp missing Thursday’s practice, it doesn’t look promising for him to play. That means rookie Cole Bishop would get the start, and because of his relative inexperience compared to the rest of the defense, that is a pressure point for the Chiefs to try to target. Whether with rookie Xavier Worthy or Hollywood Brown, targeting Bishop to open up the intermediate in front of him could be an emphasis, with the intention to take a deep shot later in the game once Bishop’s guard is down.

Projected practice squad elevations: OL Will Clapp, S Kareem Jackson

Projected inactives: QB Mike White (3rd QB), OL Ryan Van Demark, OL Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, DT DeWayne Carter, CB Kaiir Elam, S Taylor Rapp, KR/PR Brandon Codrington

Prediction: Bills 31, Chiefs 24​

With due respect to the Bengals and their two-year run over the last five years, the Bills and Chiefs have been the class of the AFC year after year. They have routinely re-invented themselves, masterfully, to keep a few steps ahead of the present-day trends in the NFL. Double-digit regular season wins and playoff runs have been a certainty for both. But Sunday feels like a critical moment for both franchises.

For the Chiefs, it’s keeping the Bills below them in the playoffs as one of Kansas City’s best talents, Kelce, nears the end of his career. For the Bills, it’s trying to break through to reach the climax of this five-year story arc that has kept these franchises so connected for so long. It really does not get much better than what will unfold on Sunday.

Ultimately, I think this is the Bills’ year to break through for several reasons. Allen is a very obvious first reason, as the way he’s played this year — essentially being defense-proof regardless of the strategy thrown at him — can push them forward.

On top of that, it’s the Bills’ offensive line. It has risen from slightly above average in 2023 to one of the best of the NFL. And specifically in this matchup, the Chiefs’ biggest defensive strength is how they get after the quarterback. The Bills having an equal or superior strength to go against the opponent’s strength — one that directly correlates with their quarterback’s performance — can be a massive edge in this game.

The Chiefs are too good to think that it will be that simple, though. Their offense knows it didn’t have its best game in Week 11, and I’m expecting some more firepower from that unit on Sunday.

I would be shocked if the Bills limited Kelce to only two catches for 8 yards, and Mahomes to no rushing attempts. The defense will have its hands full now that the Chiefs offense is back to full health with running back Isiah Pacheco and wide receiver Brown available after missing Week 11.

However, with the way the Chiefs are structured and some of their key weaknesses on the offensive line, along with some exploitable pieces on defense, I believe they can be beeat — even in a matchup they have dominated for years. And the Bills have the right strengths in those key areas to exploit them.

I’m expecting another instant classic of a game, one that will likely come down to one of the last possessions. But in the end, I think Allen and the Bills will do just enough to get to their first Super Bowl in 31 years.
 
Just score thirty. You do that and we are going Superbowling. Please, please please I beg you please, I want payoff for 35 years of being a fan. I don't want to say but we won in 64 and 65, I want we won in 64, 65, 2024, and 2025
 
Because Ed Oliver is the biggest waste of money on the entire team.
Dunno about waste of money, but he was a wasted draft pick. Oh well, McD better not be planning a defensive match. This needs to be an airshow. This year's Chiefs cannot keep up.
 
The DL has been the No. 1 let down every single year. All the high priced toys McD has used up and they never show up on the big stage. No sacks, no pressures, nothing. Main reason why we are always torched for an average of like 35 points in our losses.

If there was EVER one fucking day for these mofos to do their job, its this week. All of them. Oliver, Phillips, AJ, Von, Groot, Jones, Johnson. Its now or never. Bring the heat to Mahomes.
 
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