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Oklahoma Family Says ICE Agents Raided Wrong Home, Took Their Belongings. What We Know​

A federal raid on a northwest Oklahoma City home is under scrutiny after a family said agents targeted the wrong address. The residents, who had recently moved from Maryland, claim they have no ties to the names listed on the warrant.

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A woman who recently moved to Oklahoma City with her three daughters says federal agents raided her home by mistake, seizing their phones, laptops, and cash savings, despite her family's name not being on the search warrant.

The woman, referred to as Marisa by KFOR News 4, had relocated from Maryland just two weeks before the raid. Her husband stayed back temporarily and was supposed to join them over the weekend, as per KFOR.

On Thursday morning, Marisa said around 20 armed people entered her house before sunrise. She said the group identified themselves as agents from ICE, the FBI, and US Marshals, and showed a search warrant for the property. However, the names listed on the warrant did not match anyone in her family. Marisa believes the names belong to former tenants, as the mail that is addressed to them is still being delivered to the house.

“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying.”

Marisa said that the agents forced her and her daughters outside in the rain before they had a chance to get dressed. “They wanted me to change in front of all of them,” she said. “You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”

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“They were treating us like criminals,” she said. The agents searched the entire home and took their electronics and life savings in cash as “evidence,” as per the KFOR report.

“I told them before they left… we have no money,” she said. “How do you just leave me like this?”

KFOR reached out to the US Marshals Service. It said it knew about the operation but was not involved. The FBI first said it helped with the case but later claimed it wasn’t on the scene, according to KFOR.

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You are an enemy of the LGBTQ community, because every time we had this conversation you treated the fascist backlash as a natural consequence of a phenomenon you considered unnatural. Like it's just perfunctorily acceptable that the "steamroll" was coming and that the onus to prevent it was on trans people to pipe down instead of on people like you to stand in the way of clear injustice.
I don’t know what natural is, but I do know what out of the norm is. Gender dysphoria is between the ears, not the legs.
I’m NOT saying it’s mental illness, I’m saying I HAVENT MADE AN OPINION YET THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO OVERRIDE DECADES OF DEEP SEATED societal norms that I was TAUGHT.

But, that’s why I don’t like arrogant assholes like you, and why you want all boomers to die, I guess 🤷‍♂️
 
I plan to report IC for social security fraud. He can sit on here all day and type away he can work. IC it's time you take some responsibility. Good luck loser.
 
I don’t know what natural is, but I do know what out of the norm is. Gender dysphoria is between the ears, not the legs.
I’m NOT saying it’s mental illness, I’m saying I HAVENT MADE AN OPINION YET THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO OVERRIDE DECADES OF DEEP SEATED societal norms that I was TAUGHT.

But, that’s why I don’t like arrogant assholes like you, and why you want all boomers to die, I guess 🤷‍♂️
You're not listening.

My issue was not with the fact that you were having a hard time overriding the decades of unfamiliarity with trans people.

My issue was that you believed the solution to the conflict we both saw unfolding was for trans people to lay down and accept that bigots- not you, actual dyed-in-the-wool full-throated bigots- were not ready to share the world with them. That no matter how many times I explained that this was not an appropriate suggestion it was still the first one you presented every time. That the idea that seeing the conflict coming conferred a degree of responsibility on you to take up the mantle of anti-bigotry was deeply uncomfortable to the point that it never, ever stuck from one conversation to the next.
 
I plan to report IC for social security fraud. He can sit on here all day and type away he can work. IC it's time you take some responsibility. Good luck loser.
Oh no you're endangering the $0 I get from the government that's so bad I'm so screwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwed
 
You're not listening.

My issue was not with the fact that you were having a hard time overriding the decades of unfamiliarity with trans people.

My issue was that you believed the solution to the conflict we both saw unfolding was for trans people to lay down and accept that bigots- not you, actual dyed-in-the-wool full-throated bigots- were not ready to share the world with them. That no matter how many times I explained that this was not an appropriate suggestion it was still the first one you presented every time. That the idea that seeing the conflict coming conferred a degree of responsibility on you to take up the mantle of anti-bigotry was deeply uncomfortable to the point that it never, ever stuck from one conversation to the next.
No, you misunderstood.

All my thoughts were at that time was maybe the push was too far too fast. “Family-friendly” trans shows in public with crotch hammocks holding their junk, over the top trans people on TikTok that complain about innocent misgendering, transgenders reading to kids in school all glammed up, stuff like that. You took that as being a jerk, and mentioned Stonewall.

Remember a few years ago, Cheerios had a commercial where there was a clearly black, not maybe mixed race but black black man, and he had a lily white wife and mixed race child? That didn’t last long, a lot of comments from racists in comment sections.

Now, no one bats an eye. Couldn’t care less, unless you’re hardcore racist. I believe in the pendulum effect. People suck, retribution and payback are real when you fuck with someone’s core beliefs. I also believe we have 3 brains, a reptile brain, a cat brain, and a monkey brain. Too many people don’t use their monkey brains, or we’d all get along more.

I’m going to see if I can edit out my previous comments. I didn’t mean it.

Unlike you.
 
Remember a few years ago, Cheerios had a commercial where there was a clearly black, not maybe mixed race but black black man, and he had a lily white wife and mixed race child? That didn’t last long, a lot of comments from racists in comment sections.
When that commercial received backlash, did you feel that the appropriate response was for interracial couples to slow their roll? Or did you understand that the right reaction was to tell people who had a problem with it to- I'm going to steal the phrase David Lynch used re: transphobes here- fix their hearts or die?
 
No, you misunderstood.

All my thoughts were at that time was maybe the push was too far too fast. “Family-friendly” trans shows in public with crotch hammocks holding their junk, over the top trans people on TikTok that complain about innocent misgendering, transgenders reading to kids in school all glammed up, stuff like that. You took that as being a jerk, and mentioned Stonewall.
And do you recall my point in mentioning Stonewall? It was that this is a fight that has been fought for over 50 years. That there's nothing "too fast" about trans people wanting to live with dignity in the 2020s when that's been a struggle that has gone on in various forms for over a century.
 
Good! That's a little better!

While you're at it please share your thoughts on autistic people in the Third Reich.

Not true Germans, right?
I know several autistic folks. Remember JMac the autistic kid who sunk several shots at a varsity basketball game years ago. Yeah I know him and he is a good dude. Tries really hard to be a productive member of society. He is a bus monitor at the school district he graduated from. My other buddies son is autistic and works at a local bakery. So what's your excuse?
 
Now, no one bats an eye. Couldn’t care less, unless you’re hardcore racist. I believe in the pendulum effect. People suck, retribution and payback are real when you fuck with someone’s core beliefs.
Interracial couples are not fucking with people's core beliefs. Gay people weren't fucking with people's core beliefs. Trans people are not fucking with people's core beliefs.

They're just trying to live.

Bigotry against marginalized communities is not retribution. It is not payback. They're not fucking hurting anybody.
 
I know several autistic folks. Remember JMac the autistic kid who sunk several shots at a varsity basketball game years ago. Yeah I know him and he is a good dude. Tries really hard to be a productive member of society. He is a bus monitor at the school district he graduated from. My other buddies son is autistic and works at a local bakery. So what's your excuse?
Oh good so you'd have been upset if JMac was sent to Am Spiegelgrund instead of to a labor camp. That's reassuring.
 
And do you recall my point in mentioning Stonewall? It was that this is a fight that has been fought for over 50 years. That there's nothing "too fast" about trans people wanting to live with dignity in the 2020s when that's been a struggle that has gone on in various forms for over a century.


You think I’m diametrically opposed to everything you stand for. That’s not true. I’m agnostic, and sick of Judeo-Christian people in this country (who’ve had a terrible civil rights history) telling people they have the right way to be, all because some guy in some book said so.

Meaning, I DONT KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WAY TO BE IS.

Nobody should be treated less than a human, unless they act that way (premeditated murder, rape, etc).

Personally, I’d like if we started to get away from using sexuality and what someone does in the bedroom as a descriptor of how we identify ourselves and others.
 
You think I’m diametrically opposed to everything you stand for.
No. I don't think that.

The reason you are an enemy of the LGBTQ community isn't because you're opposed to us. It's because you're agnostic in a period of historic human rights backsliding. Taking a hands-off approach to human rights when the bigots are taking a chainsaw to them is insufficient.

If you can effortlessly put yourself into the mind of a bigot and rationalize their response to growing trans acceptance, but you can't put yourself into the mind of a trans person who is tired of being asked to stay in the closet and accept being treated as a second-class citizen and rationalize how one may bristle at being asked to live that way then that is a problem.

It's not a problem that automatically puts you in the category of bigot. But it IS a problem that makes it much less likely that you'll ever put yourself in the category of anti-bigot.

The Germans who looked the other way during the Holocaust were enemies of the Holocaust's victims even if they weren't rah-rah for the Nazis either. Their passivity served the Nazi agenda nonetheless.
 
I do not believe ICE is domestic terrorists. They are trying to do their job. These are men and women who go to work everyday to protect our country. It's the leadership that puts ICE in these situations. Sanctuary cities harboring illegal immigrants with significant criminal records is wrong. Those cities must be held accountable. My friend is a retired ICE agent and he hates Trump. I know the good work ICE has done to protect our communities.
I believe many ICE agents are high-level MAGAs. Typical bearded assholes that sleep with their guns, which they love more than life itself
 
I believe many ICE agents are high-level MAGAs. Typical bearded assholes that sleep with their guns, which they love more than life itself
Unfortunately ICE has always been a problem, long before MAGA existed. The only correct position since 2003 has been "Abolish ICE". We never needed it.

Immigration enforcement was already a thing. All the formation of ICE did was accelerate its militarization.
 
Ok, fellas!!
Had to delete some stuff here.

I LOVE when people argue, and I even love insults, but some lines cannot be crossed. When a parent loses a child, it's something that never goes away. I would check out if something happened to one of my kids, so NEVER bring that up again!

Also, call MAGAs retards, because, well, they are.
Don't call people that basically agree with most of the same things a retard. It makes no sense.
 
Unfortunately ICE has always been a problem, long before MAGA existed. The only correct position since 2003 has been "Abolish ICE". We never needed it.

Immigration enforcement was already a thing. All the formation of ICE did was accelerate its militarization.
Correct! I see ICE as corrupt as Blackwater security forces that terrorized captured Iraqi fighters
 
Ok, fellas!!
Had to delete some stuff here.

I LOVE when people argue and I even love insults, but some lines cannot be crossed. When a parent loses a child, it's something that never goes away. I would check out if something happened to one of my kids so NEVER bring that up again!

Also, call MAGAs retards, because, well, they are.
Don;t call people that basically agree with most of the same things a retard. It makes no sense.
Tater is literally using the exact language Nazis used about neurodivergent people during the Holocaust when he talks about me in this thread.

For the BILLIONTH FUCKING TIME.

TATER.

IS.

NOT.

ON.

OUR.

SIDE.

HE IS A FUCKING FASCIST.
 
Tater is literally using the exact language Nazis used about neurodivergent people during the Holocaust when he talks about me in this thread.

For the BILLIONTH FUCKING TIME.

TATER.

IS.

NOT.

ON.

OUR.

SIDE.

HE IS A FUCKING FASCIST.
He's not a fascist. He's a normal dude who doesn't get pulled into special interest bullshit.
 
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