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Oklahoma Family Says ICE Agents Raided Wrong Home, Took Their Belongings. What We Know

A federal raid on a northwest Oklahoma City home is under scrutiny after a family said agents targeted the wrong address. The residents, who had recently moved from Maryland, claim they have no ties to the names listed on the warrant., US News News - Times Now

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Oklahoma Family Says ICE Agents Raided Wrong Home, Took Their Belongings. What We Know​

A federal raid on a northwest Oklahoma City home is under scrutiny after a family said agents targeted the wrong address. The residents, who had recently moved from Maryland, claim they have no ties to the names listed on the warrant.



A woman who recently moved to Oklahoma City with her three daughters says federal agents raided her home by mistake, seizing their phones, laptops, and cash savings, despite her family's name not being on the search warrant.

The woman, referred to as Marisa by KFOR News 4, had relocated from Maryland just two weeks before the raid. Her husband stayed back temporarily and was supposed to join them over the weekend, as per KFOR.

On Thursday morning, Marisa said around 20 armed people entered her house before sunrise. She said the group identified themselves as agents from ICE, the FBI, and US Marshals, and showed a search warrant for the property. However, the names listed on the warrant did not match anyone in her family. Marisa believes the names belong to former tenants, as the mail that is addressed to them is still being delivered to the house.

“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying.”

Marisa said that the agents forced her and her daughters outside in the rain before they had a chance to get dressed. “They wanted me to change in front of all of them,” she said. “You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”

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“They were treating us like criminals,” she said. The agents searched the entire home and took their electronics and life savings in cash as “evidence,” as per the KFOR report.

“I told them before they left… we have no money,” she said. “How do you just leave me like this?”

KFOR reached out to the US Marshals Service. It said it knew about the operation but was not involved. The FBI first said it helped with the case but later claimed it wasn’t on the scene, according to KFOR.

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[HipKat]

I'm gone.

Again??

 

[Blondie]

My brother is on the spectrum as well and if her were tested today he would be diagnosed with Autism. Instead back in be day they labeled it learning disability which he has much more than that. That came from his MD.

This is because the DSM has been revised over the years, to allow new scientific developments to be incorporated into how diagnose individuals. That was done for treatment purposes.

Regardless, ICR, is asking ALL of you to THINK about how you word things. We are all guilty ... we have all called someone "nuts", "crazy", "autistic" even "psycho" ... NOW imagine you are a person who has been diagnosed with a mental disorder and you see people talking to other people like that?

HIP saying "you go full blown autism on someone" is wrong on every level and I don't care if you or him have a family member with a disorder, that doesn't classify your relative it classifies the DISORDER.

You guys REALLY need to understand that.

 

[HipKat]

I support DUE PROCESS.

So does Tater, so do I, so does everyone I know who isn't a Trump-sycophant.
That's not the question.

 

[Blondie]

I think you go too far to defend him. Ignoring what HE said that provoked whoever he's fighting with's response. It goes both ways and yes, having an Autistic Child, especially a teenager in today's world, gives me a ton of insight into recognizing his behavior, his attacks on people who don't cozy up to HIS opinions, and his irrational inability to see any perspective other than his own.

Are you talking about your child here, or IC?

 

[Blondie]

So does Tater, so do I, so does everyone I know who isn't a Trump-sycophant.
That's not the question.

I answered his question.

 

[HipKat]

Regardless, ICR, is asking ALL of you to THINK about how you word things. We are all guilty ... we have all called someone "nuts", "crazy", "autistic" even "psycho" ... NOW imagine you are a person who has been diagnosed with a mental disorder and you see people talking to other people like that?

You don't think "kill yourself", "do the world a favor and blow your own brains out" and similar posts from him don't deserve HIM to "think about how he words things?"
On other more highly moderated forums, a comment like "kill yourself" would come with moderator actions. On Facebook, it's a ban. On Reddit, it's a deleted post and a warning. I know this firsthand.

HIP saying "you go full blown autism on someone" is wrong on every level and I don't care if you or him have a family member with a disorder, that doesn't classify your relative it classifies the DISORDER.

You guys REALLY need to understand that.

You're right, I should have said full-blown Millenial. Which isn't a far jump from the characteristics that come with Autism in many cases.

 

[Blondie]

Hip .. Whether you like it or not .. you will have people with disorders reading YOUR forum.

 

[HipKat]

Hip .. Whether you like it or not .. you will have people with disorders reading YOUR forum.

So, you're saying ICR is a person with disorders, which has been my POV for years

 

[Tatertot78]

Ok

I support DUE PROCESS.

I agree 100%. It is a constitutional right even for illegal immigrants to receive due process and they should. Once due process is completed and it is determined that the illegal must be extradited due to breaking several laws how would you expect it to be handled?

 

[Tatertot78]

This is because the DSM has been revised over the years, to allow new scientific developments to be incorporated into how diagnose individuals. That was done for treatment purposes.

Regardless, ICR, is asking ALL of you to THINK about how you word things. We are all guilty ... we have all called someone "nuts", "crazy", "autistic" even "psycho" ... NOW imagine you are a person who has been diagnosed with a mental disorder and you see people talking to other people like that?

HIP saying "you go full blown autism on someone" is wrong on every level and I don't care if you or him have a family member with a disorder, that doesn't classify your relative it classifies the DISORDER.

You guys REALLY need to understand that.

Again I never replied to IC. He responded to me by calling me names. If he engaged in the conversation it would have done another way. How do you know the people IC is engage with doesn't have some sort of disability? I never provoked IC and that's a fact. Instead you are enabling him making him feel what he is doing is right. You are doing a major disservice to him.

 

[Blondie]

So, you're saying ICR is a person with disorders, which has been my POV for years

NO, that is NOT WHAT I SAID.

 

[ICRockets]

Ok
I agree 100%. It is a constitutional right even for illegal immigrants to receive due process and they should. Once due process is completed and it is determined that the illegal must be extradited due to breaking several laws how would you expect it to be handled?

This will be my last post, because this is once again you demonstrating you don't understand how things work.

Due process in our country is for crimes committed in our country. Extradition is not. Extradition is for crimes committed in THE OTHER country.

Someone who rapes a person HERE and receives due process HERE would be getting DEPORTED, not extradited. If the crime didn't happen in the other country, they cannot incarcerate the rapist. Your policy lets them keep raping.

 

[Blondie]

Again I never replied to IC. He responded to me by calling me names. If he engaged in the conversation it would have done another way. How do you know the people IC is engage with doesn't have some sort of disability? I never provoked IC and that's a fact. Instead you are enabling him making him feel what he is doing is right. You are doing a major disservice to him.

I said your initial post was to provoke and get a reaction .. which is what you accomplished.

I am not doing any disservice to IC or anyone, IC is challenging your dominant views, because it is that view that is not inclusive to all. That is all he is doing.

 

[Blondie]

This will be my last post, because this is once again you demonstrating you don't understand how things work.

Due process in our country is for crimes committed in our country. Extradition is not. Extradition is for crimes committed in THE OTHER country.

Someone who rapes a person HERE and receives due process HERE would be getting DEPORTED, not extradited. If the crime didn't happen in the other country, they cannot incarcerate the rapist. Your policy lets them keep raping.

I am at work, and hadn't had a chance to reply .. you did perfectly!

 

[Tatertot78]

I said your initial post was to provoke and get a reaction .. which is what you accomplished.

I am not doing any disservice to IC or anyone, IC is challenging your dominant views, because it is that view that is not inclusive to all. That is all he is doing.

Lol how did I provoke? My initial response was not directly intended for him? You are literally making it up. Not only that I have told ICR several times to just put me on ignore. It's all in writing. Btw you came at me as well with your dominant views. Unfortunately the facts aren't on your side.

 

[Tatertot78]

I said your initial post was to provoke and get a reaction .. which is what you accomplished.

I am not doing any disservice to IC or anyone, IC is challenging your dominant views, because it is that view that is not inclusive to all. That is all he is doing.

Btw can you also please respond to my question.
Once due process is completed and it is determined that the illegal must be extradited due to breaking several laws how would you expect it to be handled?

 

[ICRockets]

Lol how did I provoke? My initial response was not directly intended for him? You are literally making it up. Not only that I have told ICR several times to just put me on ignore. It's all in writing. Btw you came at me as well with your dominant views. Unfortunately the facts aren't on your side.

No, you haven't. You told me to put you BACK on ignore while bragging in the shoutbox that you never use ignore. The implication was clear that you think less of people who do.

 

[ICRockets]

Why should WE pay for their incarceration??

Sorry, THIS will be my last post because I realized I never addressed this sentence in particular.

As I see it, there is a cost in 2 out of the 3 possible scenarios that can derive from us apprehending and trying an undocumented rapist.

1) We house him on our dime.
2) He is deported and rapes again.
3) He is deported and never re-offends.

In scenario 1, the cost is monetary. That's a cost I can very easily stomach, given the alternative cost is an innocent person in another country having their rights horrifically violated. In that cost/benefit analysis, the benefit of not facilitating such an outcome far outweighs the cost of housing one inmate.

 

[Blondie]

Btw can you also please respond to my question.
Once due process is completed and it is determined that the illegal must be extradited due to breaking several laws how would you expect it to be handled?

I expect to be handled the same way any other person who commits a crime in this country and is found guilty of.

 

[Blondie]

Why should WE pay for their incarceration?? Extradition exists for a reason. Incarceration is incarceration. Who cares if it's in their own country?

For the same reasons why we pay for other people who are incarcerated.