What are your thoughts on having a work requirement to receive Medicaid for those who can work?

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Tatertot78

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To be clear I have no issue supporting those who are less fortunate and have no ability to work. I have to say I believe politically this is a winning fight for Republicans. If someone is able to work then they should work full time to receive Medicaid IF their employer does not offer company sponsored health insurance. This is just my 2 cents but I am willing to change my opinion if I am missing something. I am just curious what everyone thinks.
 
I think its grandstanding by the GOP to claim to solve a non existent problem. It would be like me saying we have an alien -ufo and little green men, not undocumented immigrants- problem and then saying we need to combat it by making the playing of Space Invaders a mandatory part of the education curriculum.

Laws penalizing welfare, foodstamp/EBT and all other manner of public assistance fraud already exist. This is shameless grandstanding that only hurts desperately poor people
 
IF their company doesn't offer Health Insurance - which I'm not sure how common that is, then yes, as long as the coverage is good, those people would have access to Medicare - since the stupid Republicans are too dumb to understand how Single Payer would be the best way to go
 
Other issue is the tax payer will pay for an individuals healthcare if they have no coverage regardless. Hospitals can't turn away patients (Thank God) if they don't have insurance. We end up paying for it either way. I am not a big proponent of a single payer system. Not as Medicare/Medicaid is set up. They pay 70 cents on the dollar for reimbursement. The hospitals would not be able to keep the lights on. The 3rd party payers make up the difference. That's why the rural hospitals with payer mix higher on the Medicaid side are closing. At the very least make the HMO's non profit. I do agree what we have is not working....
 
herodotus said:
I think its grandstanding by the GOP to claim to solve a non existent problem. It would be like me saying we have an alien -ufo and little green men, not undocumented immigrants- problem and then saying we need to combat it by making the playing of Space Invaders a mandatory part of the education curriculum.

Laws penalizing welfare, foodstamp/EBT and all other manner of public assistance fraud already exist. This is shameless grandstanding that only hurts desperately poor people
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Your response got me to thinking.... What I would like to know is how many people are actually receiving Medicaid that aren't working but should be. My guess is the numbers are pretty low. What this discussion does is takes the focus off the larger issue.... Affordability and access to healthcare for all. Remember repeal and replace? What did Republicans replace Obama care with? That's right nothing. A little known fact that Republicans don't want people to know is that the Affordable Care Act i.e Obama care had a provision in it that made Healthcare Insurance companies put 85-90% on profits back into the insurance pool just like the federal insurance. Guess what Republicans fought it to get it removed and won. It's shameful IMO.
 
Medicaid pays nowhere near what Medicare pays to providers . And to get reimbursement via Medicaid, the paperwork and delays in payment are mountainous
 
Who here buys insurance off of healthcare.gov? I do and I have personal opinions based on experience with the program. I pa for an EPO plan meaning I don’t need referrals to see a specialist. I qualify for 1200 a month subsidy and still pay 900 a month. 6500 deductible for each of us two.

50 doctor visit / 90 specialist

So I pay 2100 a month for coverage that doesn’t kick in til 6500 spent.

I self payed a CT chest 99 bucks. Through insurance was 1065.00

So where is the 85-90% of profits going back into the pool by Cigna? I’m paying 25000 for zero coverage payout.
 
Looks like you have even more time to laugh at us

In 2024, Canada experienced the longest-ever recorded median wait time for healthcare, reaching 30 weeks.
 
sukie said:
Looks like you have even more time to laugh at us

In 2024, Canada experienced the longest-ever recorded median wait time for healthcare, reaching 30 weeks.
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That is extreme right wing propaganda from the 4% of Canadians -- mostly retarded rednecks in Alberta -- who are the same ones that want to become the 51st state.

Let me guess -- is the source The Frasier Institute?
 
sukie said:
Who here buys insurance off of healthcare.gov? I do and I have personal opinions based on experience with the program. I pa for an EPO plan meaning I don’t need referrals to see a specialist. I qualify for 1200 a month subsidy and still pay 900 a month. 6500 deductible for each of us two.

50 doctor visit / 90 specialist

So I pay 2100 a month for coverage that doesn’t kick in til 6500 spent.

I self payed a CT chest 99 bucks. Through insurance was 1065.00

So where is the 85-90% of profits going back into the pool by Cigna? I’m paying 25000 for zero coverage payout.
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www.forbes.com

Cigna 2024 Profits Eclipse $3 Billion Despite Rising Costs

The Cigna Group reported more than $3.4 billion in 2024 profits including $1.4 billion in the fourth quarter despite rising medical expenses in its employer plans.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

If these insurance companies had to reinvest back into their own company all of our premiums would be much lower. I say start with making health insurers non for profit. That would be a start.
 
sukie said:
Looks like you have even more time to laugh at us

In 2024, Canada experienced the longest-ever recorded median wait time for healthcare, reaching 30 weeks.
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The only people who wait are mostly made up of elective procedures.
Life-threatening illnesses and surgeries, etc, get as immediate attention as anywhere else.
 
Electives don’t wait they are self paid or private insurance. Not factored into the equation.

Not that waiting is an issue with Canada… it’s reasonable to wait. It’s availability of equipment for testing and procedures.

I have as many radiation oncology centers in Broward county than all of Ontario. 10 times the diagnostic centers and that is because of the profit model of US. No one is building private labs or diagnostic imaging centers fully supported by a single payer system. The profit point is not there.
 
sukie said:
Electives don’t wait they are self paid or private insurance. Not factored into the equation.

Not that waiting is an issue with Canada… it’s reasonable to wait. It’s availability of equipment for testing and procedures.

I have as many radiation oncology centers in Broward county than all of Ontario. 10 times the diagnostic centers and that is because of the profit model of US. No one is building private labs or diagnostic imaging centers fully supported by a single payer system. The profit point is not there.
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And that is the issue with a single payer system...
 
Tatertot78 said:
And that is the issue with a single payer system...
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Florida also has 2/3rds the population of Canada and most of the Canadian Population is spread out amongst only several large cities and vast wilderness so it makes sense that Florida has more equipment than Canada
 
I’m for a modified Medicare. But modify it with monthly premiums like there are now but more for those not at retirement age. Now before you get all crazy with the idea of premiums. Medicare is about 175-180 a month now. Make it double for under 65 . Would be way less than insurance premiums and that middleman is cut out.
 
Our current system needs waiting room menu boards with clear procedure pricing and THAT would foster competition. Not the cost per insurance carrier like now.

My CT chest was 1065 thru Cigna but 99 self pay.
 
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