'Willing to take that risk': Republicans want Trump to have vast control over government spending


Some GOP lawmakers want to repeal the Impoundment Control Act, a Watergate-era bill designed to prevent presidents from abusing power over spending. Andrew Harnik/Getty Images

Some GOP lawmakers want to repeal the Impoundment Control Act, a Watergate-era bill designed to
prevent presidents from abusing power over spending. Andrew Harnik/Getty Images© Andrew Harnik/Getty Images

  • A group of Republicans recently introduced a bill to repeal the Impoundment Control Act.
  • It would hand Trump more control over government spending — he could even unilaterally cut it off.
  • Several Republicans who backed the bill told BI they're fine with giving up congressional power.
Ahead of President-elect Donald Trump's return to the White House, some Republicans on Capitol Hill are ready to do something unusual: Relinquish some of their own power over federal spending.

More than 20 Republicans cosponsored a bill this month that would repeal the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, or ICA, a Watergate-era law that requires the president to spend all of the money that Congress approves. In the absence of that law and subsequent court rulings, the president would have the power to spend less money than what Congress decides — or refuse to spend money on certain programs altogether.

That would bring a massive power shift from the legislative to the executive branch, upending a balance between the two that's existed for 50 years. Some Republicans on Capitol Hill say it's their best hope of enacting spending cuts and reducing the national debt, given Congress's history of inaction and what they view as their colleagues' unwillingness to reduce spending.

"I think the spending is just out of control, and I think Congress is gutless," Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee told Business Insider. "I just don't think we're capable of making changes without some other interference, whether it be the executive branch or the voters."

"If the power is reducing expenditures, then I'm all for it," Rep. Eric Burlison of Missouri told BI. "Something has to be done."

"You look at where we are in this country, why not give him that power?" Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina told BI, referring to the country's fiscal situation. "At this point, I'm willing to take that risk. Anything can be abused. I can drink too much water, and suffer from it."

The Trump-Vance transition did not respond to a request for comment.

'We can simply choke off the money'

Trump is no stranger to impoundment — his first impeachment was triggered by his refusal to deliver aid to Ukraine. As he's mounted his third presidential bid, Trump has argued that the ICA is unconstitutional and should be done away with, either via congressional repeal or via the courts.

"With impoundment, we can simply choke off the money," Trump said in a 2023 campaign video. "I alone can get that done."

As Trump has staffed up his administration, he's appointed staunch proponents of impoundment to key positions. That includes Russell Vought and Mark Paoletta, who have been nominated to their previously held roles of director and general counsel of the Office of Management and Budget, respectively.

The president-elect's allies have argued that impoundment is a constitutional power that all presidents hold, owing to the president's duty under Article II of the US Constitution to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Rep. Andrew Clyde, the lead sponsor of the ICA repeal bill. Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call

Rep. Andrew Clyde, the lead sponsor of the ICA repeal bill. Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call© Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call

They also point out that for roughly 200 years before 1974 — when Congress passed the ICA as President Richard Nixon refused to spend money on programs he disagreed with — presidents of all stripes have used impoundment for a variety of reasons, including policy disagreements.

"When Congress passes a spending bill, we pass a ceiling," Rep. Andrew Clyde, the Georgia Republican who introduced the ICA repeal bill, told BI. "It's not a floor and ceiling put together at one number."

More recently, impoundment has been embraced by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, whose "Department of Government Efficiency" initiative aims to enact trillions of dollars in cuts to federal spending. The duo have publicly agreed with Trump's argument that the ICA is unconstitutional, and the topic arose when they visited Capitol Hill to speak with Republicans earlier this month.

"I look at it as a tool of saving money, and being more efficient," Clyde said. "That's what the American people literally demanded in this election."

'Maybe this is too broad'

There are plenty of opponents of impoundment on Capitol Hill, including among Republicans. Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, the incoming GOP chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, has told reporters that she's opposed to repealing the ICA. And it's not just Trump skeptics who are uneasy with it.

"If it's something that further weakens Congress' ability to do its job the way they should be, then I'm going to look at that real carefully," Republican Rep. Mark Amodei of Nevada told BI in November.

Key Democrats, meanwhile, have expressed opposition to Trump's impoundment plans. Rep. Brendan Boyle, the top Democrat on the House Budget Committee, released a fact sheet making a case against impoundment.

"The legal theories being pushed by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are as idiotic as they are dangerous," Boyle said in a statement. "Unilaterally slashing funds that have been lawfully appropriated by the people's elected representatives in Congress would be a devastating power grab that undermines our economy and puts families and communities at risk."

Republican skepticism, along with Democrats' likely opposition to any effort to give Trump more spending power, could make repealing the law via Congress an uphill battle.

The president-elect said in the 2023 video that he "will do everything I can to challenge the Impoundment Control Act in court," queueing up what would be a high-stakes legal fight early in his second term.

What remains unclear is exactly how expansively Trump would try to use impoundment. For some of the Republicans who support the effort, it's merely about spending less than what's necessary. Others warn that Trump could use that power in a retributive way, denying federal funding to states and localities over policy disagreements.

Even those who've cosponsored the ICA repeal bill expressed some ambivalence about its potential implications.

"Maybe this is too broad. I don't know," Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona told BI. "But I can tell you this: if you have a president who says 'I don't need 10 billion, I need 2 billion,' then I would like them not to spend that 8 billion. That's really kind of what the objective is, I think."
 
A fix could happen with an amendment that ends money in politics. Bernie Sanders has proposed amendment language that has been out there for years. I pleaded and begged my state representative and state senator to vote on their support to create a welling up from the states for support of an amendment. No use waiting for Congress to propose it.
Good idea. If there is to be money in politics cap it at say 100 dollars (cash or gift) per single person, PAC, business, or any other single entity per single candidate or referendum per election. That way Ms. Marple's third grade class can give Senatewhore Bugwhacker a t-shirt and a dinner at the Applebee's to thank him for telling them a bit about civics. 100 dollars means that you and I have as much say as some fucking plutocrat. Levels the playing field

Second, no politician may get a job at a lobbying group within 5 years of their last day in office.

Complete disclosure of all gifts and cash received from any corporation.

Complete ban on foreign governments and business concerns gifting money or gifts of any value to any current office holder or candidate. Foreign powers should have no ability to influence the decisions of our politicians be that country a friend or foe
 
Yup. Blondie's attempt to defend the indefensible is, unsurprisingly, based on a false premise.

The fact that her argument- that it's good for millions to die because millions of other people are ignorant of empirical reality-is itself ignorant of empirical reality is quite bitterly ironic.

I guess if I hoped she got evicted that'd be cool now?
Maybe it's better to understand that each of us are processing Trump2, for the first time, with varying amounts of frustration, hopelessness, anger, and so on. I'd rather judge Blondie on something other than what you may feel are the consequences of her words. Plus, she's my cousin, and probably yours too.
 
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Good idea. If there is to be money in politics cap it at say 100 dollars (cash or gift) per single person, PAC, business, or any other single entity per single candidate or referendum per election. That way Ms. Marple's third grade class can give Senatewhore Bugwhacker a t-shirt and a dinner at the Applebee's to thank him for telling them a bit about civics. 100 dollars means that you and I have as much say as some fucking plutocrat. Levels the playing field

Second, no politician may get a job at a lobbying group within 5 years of their last day in office.

Complete disclosure of all gifts and cash received from any corporation.

Complete ban on foreign governments and business concerns gifting money or gifts of any value to any current office holder or candidate. Foreign powers should have no ability to influence the decisions of our politicians be that country a friend or foe
This was the first constitutional amendment proposed by Sanders in his two decades in Congress.[45] The text of the amendment reads as follows:

Section 1. The rights protected by the Constitution of the United States are the rights of natural persons and do not extend to for-profit corporations, limited liability companies, or other private entities established for business purposes or to promote business interests under the laws of any state, the United States, or any foreign state.
Section 2. Such corporate and other private entities established under law are subject to regulation by the people through the legislative process so long as such regulations are consistent with the powers of Congress and the States and do not limit the freedom of the press.
Section 3. Such corporate and other private entities shall be prohibited from making contributions or expenditures in any election of any candidate for public office or the vote upon any ballot measure submitted to the people.
Section 4. Congress and the States shall have the power to regulate and set limits on all election contributions and expenditures, including a candidate's own spending, and to authorize the establishment of political committees to receive, spend, and publicly disclose the sources of those contributions and expenditures.[46]
The amendment was introduced in the Senate on December 8, 2011. It was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. The Saving American Democracy amendment proposed in the Senate was a companion bill to one proposed in the House by RepresentativeTed Deutch (D-Florida).[47] Deutch's amendment was referred to the House's Subcommittee on the Constitution. Both Sanders' Saving American Democracy Amendment and Deutch's amendment failed to pass.
 
When I retire, I will be walking door to door to get signatures to force the Oregon legislature to vote on accepting the amendment language proposed, if passed and sent to the states, for the purpose of making it known that the states, by their legislatures, request such an amendment. I begged my state rep to just do this under a specific Oregon law that does not require me to force their hand by way of petition. But, no. Waste of time.
 
As noted most people that voted for Trump did so because of the economy. Right or wrong these folks felt like the economy wasn't working for them. I heard many voters say they are tired of living "Paycheck to paycheck". Ultimately I think this is the key issue and the meaning living "Paycheck to paycheck" has evolved over time therefore resulting in peoples financial perspective changing. I know when my grandparents and parents talked about living "Paycheck to paycheck" it meant they needed every paycheck to put a basic roof over someone's head and food on the table. It was more about survival. Today's meaning of "Paycheck to paycheck" is having enough money to cover the $1k iPhone, newest vehicle, eating out at fancy restaurants several times a week, the next big vacation and so on. Once these voters feel like these luxuries are in jeopardy they will bail on whatever party in in power at that time. Our values in this country along with expectations have exponentially and it is dangerous.
 
As noted most people that voted for Trump did so because of the economy. Right or wrong these folks felt like the economy wasn't working for them. I heard many voters say they are tired of living "Paycheck to paycheck". Ultimately I think this is the key issue and the meaning living "Paycheck to paycheck" has evolved over time therefore resulting in peoples financial perspective changing. I know when my grandparents and parents talked about living "Paycheck to paycheck" it meant they needed every paycheck to put a basic roof over someone's head and food on the table. It was more about survival. Today's meaning of "Paycheck to paycheck" is having enough money to cover the $1k iPhone, newest vehicle, eating out at fancy restaurants several times a week, the next big vacation and so on. Once these voters feel like these luxuries are in jeopardy they will bail on whatever party in in power at that time. Our values in this country along with expectations have exponentially and it is dangerous.
"The problem with America is people want to have nice things when they haven't even exploited thousands of other human beings to be able to afford them" go fuck yourself
 
Majority of this country voted for Trump, he won the election. This is what they voted for. They voted against themselves.

TBH, it was a majority of the voters, not the country
I do not want this, but it is out of my control and yours.

The Republicans don’t care who dies, and neither does half this country. The Republicans want to be in charge and they want to do away with these policies and the people vote for

It was NOT JUST capitalism. Free Market, Free Trade and Capitalism. The Republicans found their ways through the free market and trade to take advantage of the "openness" they both offered. They have chipped away at with their Neo-liberal policies, and the people of this country don't understand what has just happened. These people think he is going to provide them with MORE money, and LESS taxes to pay. Moving from Florida to Connecticut has been a HUGE eye opener for me. I have gone from beach city life, to rural NW corner New England of America... the people in this town think Trump is going to provide them with better paying jobs, and he is going to lower prices. These people are beyond ignorant, and the people on the beach don't give af because they think they are living their best life and Trump won't change it.

We need the Democrats to stop giving into the Republicans.
Amen!
 
TBH, it was a majority of the voters, not the country

Amen!
It wasn't even that.

In millions:
Population: 335 (100% of people)
Eligible to vote: 245 (73%)
Registered to vote: 170 (51%) (my estimate from updating 2022 with what I found as new registrants)
Voters: 156 (46%)
Trump: 77 (23%) or 49.9% of voter, but close!
Majority of electors, yes.
 
Yup. Blondie's attempt to defend the indefensible is, unsurprisingly, based on a false premise.

The fact that her argument- that it's good for millions to die because millions of other people are ignorant of empirical reality-is itself ignorant of empirical reality is quite bitterly ironic.

I guess if I hoped she got evicted that'd be cool now?
Who said millions of people?
 
As noted most people that voted for Trump did so because of the economy. Right or wrong these folks felt like the economy wasn't working for them. I heard many voters say they are tired of living "Paycheck to paycheck". Ultimately I think this is the key issue and the meaning living "Paycheck to paycheck" has evolved over time therefore resulting in peoples financial perspective changing. I know when my grandparents and parents talked about living "Paycheck to paycheck" it meant they needed every paycheck to put a basic roof over someone's head and food on the table. It was more about survival. Today's meaning of "Paycheck to paycheck" is having enough money to cover the $1k iPhone, newest vehicle, eating out at fancy restaurants several times a week, the next big vacation and so on. Once these voters feel like these luxuries are in jeopardy they will bail on whatever party in in power at that time. Our values in this country along with expectations have exponentially and it is dangerous.
I don't believe they voted for the economy. I think they voted because they've been programmed to hate anything that's attached to Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Lefties. I don't know anyone else's online experiences but there are two other forums, one a local FB group that is over-the-top with the hatred that comes from the right. I've been called out for making elusions to dead MAGAs but the fact is that they would swim in the blood of every dead Democrat. That's why Derek Chauvin and Kyle Rittenhouse are heroes to them, because blood was spilled by one of their own. That's why Jan 6th had no effect on them. They WANT to see anyone who isn't part of the cult be stomped into a puddle of guts.

Also, the wealth class has been propped up on a pedestal by the right - who have ALWAYS been the party of Wall Street and the uber-rich to the point that the lower classes feel they have to emulate them to feel relevant. Even that truck I bought, driving it gives me a sense of success. Of being one of "them" (who drive new trucks). That's why so many are living outside of the bounds of a weekly pittance, errrrr paycheck!
 
Off by .01%
It remains important to point it out. Everything Trump does for the next 4 years he's going to do while claiming a mandate from the people. That mandate doesn't exist, and treating the voting population as if he's right about them can only help his agenda, not hamper it.
 
No. This is flatly, 100% wrong. For fuck's sake, idiot, he didn't even win a majority of the VOTING population.
He won what was needed to win the election. You, nor ANYONE can speak for those who did not vote. Those who didn’t vote, and those who voted for anyone other than Harris, put HIM in office. You can call me every name you can think of, won’t change the fact majority of this country supported HIM and the Republicans in more ways than a vote. The Republicans have been saying FOR DECADES they want to end social security and its programs. Since the 70’s those Republicans have wanted to end the New Deal. You screaming on the internet calling people names doesn’t change the fact that the Republicans are in charge, and they want to end these programs, and they have defunded education and the system to manipulate the public, and guess what, THEY won’t stop. Remember Trump ran republican because he loves the poorly educated. He banked on them and won. So, I stand by what I said, majority of this country elected him. Suck my ass now.
 
It remains important to point it out. Everything Trump does for the next 4 years he's going to do while claiming a mandate from the people. That mandate doesn't exist, and treating the voting population as if he's right about them can only help his agenda, not hamper it.
You might want to get your voice into rural communities that’s where he gets his support.
 
Quite right, For the umpteenth consecutive election the largest segment of the electorate was "did not vote." Even amongst the people who did vote, Trump only won a plurality (49.8 percent of the vote was it?)
Not voting is being complicit, and is a form of voting. Those are the people who are responsible for this past election, and the Republicans think the people want this. So, guess what?? The Republicans are going to give them what they think they want. We are their carnage.
 
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