sukie
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Why are you writing about the supposed consensus? That is alarmist and political rhetoric. Just like 1.5 degrees more (sorry now it’s 2) and we are doomed.
The term scientifically is Climate Change from Anthropogenic Global Warming. change is a result not a cause. Climate change cannot do anything. You can keep Climate Emergency, Climate Catastrophe, Global Boiling or any other term. That’s all alarmism.
Science doesn’t know how much warming will occur per every doubling of CO2 content in the atmosphere. Scientific publications have it anywhere from 1.5-7 degrees… latest one has it as low as .5 degrees… they don’t really know This is the ECS number. Very important to know that. Most people don’t .
Climate models use the ECS and they add assumptions about feedbacks. (assumptions are in all computer models… not a bad thing) then they tune the model using more assumptions about water vapor, carbon sinks, oceans, and clouds and they get the curves to line up with past collected temperature data… then they run it predictably forward . Then observation continues to validate the models. They are all too hot in the predictions… models are not proof. Any paper based on models is a prediction. Not settled science… also not a scientific term.
Scientists also study the greening effect of .0485% CO2. there has been an increase in vegetation globally of approx 15% good thing.
One last thing… Net Zero is not scientific. It’s activist political. How much will Net Zero in the US reduce warming? No one knows. Some guess less than a degree. How much will Net Zero cost the US? X Trillions? No one knows. When will there be a viable Carbon Capture technology scaleable to make the US Net Zero? Probably never… but definitely after the X Trillions is spent.
Exhale less save the planet. Methane is not and won’t ever be a problem… that is another topic.
There is science and there is alarmism. Vastly different things.
James Cook is a painter and a blogger
The term scientifically is Climate Change from Anthropogenic Global Warming. change is a result not a cause. Climate change cannot do anything. You can keep Climate Emergency, Climate Catastrophe, Global Boiling or any other term. That’s all alarmism.
Science doesn’t know how much warming will occur per every doubling of CO2 content in the atmosphere. Scientific publications have it anywhere from 1.5-7 degrees… latest one has it as low as .5 degrees… they don’t really know This is the ECS number. Very important to know that. Most people don’t .
Climate models use the ECS and they add assumptions about feedbacks. (assumptions are in all computer models… not a bad thing) then they tune the model using more assumptions about water vapor, carbon sinks, oceans, and clouds and they get the curves to line up with past collected temperature data… then they run it predictably forward . Then observation continues to validate the models. They are all too hot in the predictions… models are not proof. Any paper based on models is a prediction. Not settled science… also not a scientific term.
Scientists also study the greening effect of .0485% CO2. there has been an increase in vegetation globally of approx 15% good thing.
One last thing… Net Zero is not scientific. It’s activist political. How much will Net Zero in the US reduce warming? No one knows. Some guess less than a degree. How much will Net Zero cost the US? X Trillions? No one knows. When will there be a viable Carbon Capture technology scaleable to make the US Net Zero? Probably never… but definitely after the X Trillions is spent.
Exhale less save the planet. Methane is not and won’t ever be a problem… that is another topic.
There is science and there is alarmism. Vastly different things.
James Cook is a painter and a blogger