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Trump demands return of Panama Canal if rates aren't cut​


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A ship passes through the Panama Canal. Photo: Martin Bernetti/AFP via Getty Images

President-elect Trump demanded Panamanian authorities either lower fees for U.S. ships to transit the Panama Canal, or return its control to the United States.
Why it matters: The U.S. ceded one of the world's most crucial pieces of infrastructure in 1999, and China has become increasingly influential in its operations since.

Catch up quick: Trump, in a lengthy series of Saturday evening posts to Truth Social, said American naval and commercial ships were being treated in an "unfair and injudicious way."
  • Trump blasted past administrations for returning the canal to Panama's control, which he called a "token of cooperation."
  • "If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question," Trump said.
The other side: Panama's president, Jose Raúl Mulino, posted a video on social media Sunday night rejecting Trump's demands.
  • "The sovereignty and independence of our country are not negotiable," Mulino said.
  • "Our canal has the mission to serve humanity and its commerce," Mulino added. "That is one of the greatest values that the Panamanians offer to the world."
The intrigue: Trump quoted Mulino's response on Truth Social and said "We'll see about that!"
  • He subsequently posted a picture of the American flag flying over the canal and the message "Welcome to the United States Canal!"
Context: Panama granted the U.S. the right to build the canal and control the land on either side in 1904.
  • In 1977 President Jimmy Carter signed a treaty that returned the canal to full Panamanian control by the end of 1999 in exchange for its permanent neutrality.
  • The canal has long been viewed as a tool of colonialism and colonial control. Panama sees the canal today as a key factor in its self -determination and national interest amid a changing global economy.
By the numbers: About 10,000 ships a year transit the canal, though in recent times severe drought has limited capacity and helped push transit rates higher.
  • The International Trade Administration estimates more than 70% of all ships transiting the canal are going to or from a U.S. port.
  • About 2.5% of all global maritime trade passes through the canal, per McKinsey.
Zoom out: China has invested heavily in operations in the Canal Zone in recent years, raising concerns about the zone's neutrality.
  • In 2021 the Center for Strategic and International Studies warned a "key decision point" was coming for U.S. interests in the region, given China's expansion.
  • The U.S. ambassador reportedly cautioned last year about the situation not escalating to where Panama has to choose between the U.S. and China.
What they're saying: Panamanian politicians blasted Trump's statement.
  • "This young Panamanian independent deputy will defend his country with his life if necessary," National Assembly member Manuel Alberto Samaniego Rodriguez posted on X, calling Trump's remarks "regrettable."
Trump, speaking Sunday at the Turning Point Action Conference in Phoenix, Arizona, called Panama's fees "ridiculous" and "highly unfair."
  • "The United States has a big and vested interest in the secure, efficient and reliable operation of the Panama Canal," he said.
  • It's falling into the wrong hands — it was not given for the benefit of others," Trump continued. "It was given with provisions, you have to treat us fairly and you are not treating us fairly."
 
Trump has been stiffing people he owes money to since the day he was born.

His Father was an absolute asshole and role model for Donald.
Yup, and I have told my story enough, he stiffed Fred Bullard who loaned him several million from his bank that he eventually has to file bankruptcy on.
 
On another forum, we did a comparison. Hillary, Jill Biden and Obama had unpaid bills but combined were far less than what Trump owes over the last 3 campaign seasons, that have never been paid
 

Trump loses appeal of sexual abuse and defamation judgment in E. Jean Carroll case​


A New York federal appeals court on Monday upheld a jury's verdict that President-elect Donald Trump sexually abused and defamed columnist E. Jean Carroll and owes her $5 million for doing so.

"We conclude that Mr. Trump has not demonstrated that the district court erred in any of the challenged rulings," wrote the Appeals Court judges. "Further, he has not carried his burden to show that any claimed error or combination of claimed errors affected his substantial rights as required to warrant a new trial."

Carroll brought the lawsuit against the former president, claiming he assaulted her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s and then hurt her reputation by attacking her allegations as a "con job" in 2022. Trump has strongly denied her claims and disputed a Manhattan civil jury's unanimous verdict.

In his appeal, Trump's lawyers attacked trial Judge Lewis Kaplan's decision to allow two other women to testify that Trump assaulted them, too.
One of the two said Trump pushed her against a wall and forcibly kissed her as she was conducting a magazine interview in the mid-2000s. The other woman described him grabbing her breasts and trying to kiss her while reaching up her skirt on an airplane in the late 1970s. Trump denies those allegations as well.

The Trump team also argued the jury shouldn't have been allowed to hear Trump saying on an "Access Hollywood" recording that he kisses women without waiting for them to give consent and that stars can grab women's genitals.

Carroll's lawyers argued that her sexual abuse case against Trump wasn't even close, in part because two friends of Carroll testified they heard her story of being assaulted by Trump soon after she says it happened. The lawyers also said the testimony from the other women alleging they were assaulted by Trump demonstrated his propensity to assault women "in markedly similar ways across time."

The $5 million verdict is just the tip of the iceberg in Trump's legal troubles with Carroll. A separate federal jury awarded Carroll another $83.3 million for statements Trump made in 2019, soon after Carroll went public with her allegations. At that time, Trump said "people should pay dearly for such false accusations." Trump's appeal of that larger verdict is ongoing.

Trump has said Carroll's story is false and she isn't his "type." However, Carroll's legal team has noted that, during a 2022 deposition, Trump confused Carroll in a photo from 1987 for his former wife, Marla Maples. Carroll testified at length in the sexual abuse case about her assault allegations and was cross-examined by Trump's legal team.
 
This thread is like a NASCAR race… all turns are left.

All this complaining and jabbing at Trump. Warts and all he won again. What was offered as an alternative person and agenda was beaten soundly. The Democratic Party needs a mirror to really see who truly sucks.
 
This thread is like a NASCAR race… all turns are left.

All this complaining and jabbing at Trump. Warts and all he won again. What was offered as an alternative person and agenda was beaten soundly. The Democratic Party needs a mirror to really see who truly sucks.
You're assuming the electorate is a fair judge. I drove across the country last year; it was one non-stop Jesus billboard. These people have traded any reliance on the gift of a reasoning mind for a chance at womb dominance.
 
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