So, What DO the Republicans do now...

HipKat said:
That's not what I said nor was it the question. You asked if it should be taught in schools and I posted that I learned it in school.
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You said it should start in 5th grade, meaning the tools that we can give kids that have provably reduced CSE- learning the anatomically correct names of body parts, consent, the concepts of "private parts" and "good touch/bad touch" would be removed from K-3 curriculae if you got what you want.
 
HipKat said:
1, I know
2, I know
3, the idea is to get them OFFdrugs, not enable them to do more, but without committing crimes - which still happens anyway
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That's part of how safe injection sites work. It gives them a safe place to do drugs, but it also provides resources for addiction services. For an addict to actually get help they need to WANT to get help. It has to be their choice. These sites have proven to work in this regard.
 
ICRockets said:
You said it should start in 5th grade, meaning the tools that we can give kids that have provably reduced CSE- learning the anatomically correct names of body parts, consent, the concepts of "private parts" and "good touch/bad touch" would be removed from K-3 curriculae if you got what you want.
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No I said I took Sex Ed in 5th grade. That's saying no one should until 5th grade.
 
ICRockets said:
That's part of how safe injection sites work. It gives them a safe place to do drugs, but it also provides resources for addiction services. For an addict to actually get help they need to WANT to get help. It has to be their choice. These sites have proven to work in this regard.
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And most just want the free drugs
 
ICRockets said:
To clarify, did you mean that's NOT saying no one should? That you have no objections with my suggested curriculum?
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Of course not. Most of that shit a kid should have learned from his or her parents before the school starts teaching anything and stop accusing me of "what I want" when it's obvious you don't know what I want or don't want.
 
HipKat said:
Of course not. Most of that shit a kid should have learned from his or her parents before the school starts teaching anything and stop accusing me of "what I want" when it's obvious you don't know what I want or don't want.
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So you got mad that I said we disagree on this but we DO disagree? Are you fucking braindead?

Yeah, it's stuff a kid SHOULD HAVE learned before they get to it in school. You know who wouldn't? KIDS WHOSE PARENTS ARE ABUSING THEM AND DON'T WANT THEM TO KNOW THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG OR HAVE THE TOOLS TO ALERT OTHER ADULTS ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY YOU INCLUDE IT IN THE FUCKING CURRICULUM YOU FUCKING DEMON.

Edit: Okay I re-read the exchange and I still may need clarification. When you said "of course not" were you replying to

1) "Did you mean that's NOT what you're saying?"

or

2) "Do you have a problem with this being in the curriculum?"

Those are diametrically opposed sentiments and my initial read was #1, but if you meant #2 I apologize for yelling.
 
ICRockets said:
So you got mad that I said we disagree on this but we DO disagree? Are you fucking braindead?

Yeah, it's stuff a kid SHOULD HAVE learned before they get to it in school. You know who wouldn't? KIDS WHOSE PARENTS ARE ABUSING THEM AND DON'T WANT THEM TO KNOW THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG OR HAVE THE TOOLS TO ALERT OTHER ADULTS ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY YOU INCLUDE IT IN THE FUCKING CURRICULUM YOU FUCKING DEMON.

Edit: Okay I re-read the exchange and I still may need clarification. When you said "of course not" were you replying to

1) "Did you mean that's NOT what you're saying?"

or

2) "Do you have a problem with this being in the curriculum?"

Those are diametrically opposed sentiments and my initial read was #1, but if you meant #2 I apologize for yelling.
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Dude, it's not hard, Kids should know very early on everything you listed; "learning the anatomically correct names of body parts, consent, the concepts of "private parts" and "good touch/bad touch""

We don't disagree here.
 
HipKat said:
Dude, it's not hard, Kids should know very early on everything you listed; "learning the anatomically correct names of body parts, consent, the concepts of "private parts" and "good touch/bad touch""

We don't disagree here.
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Okay, thanks. I apologize again.
 
swiper said:
Let's start a pool. Play a game. PLACE bets to guess which SSRI ICRocket is supposed to be taking.
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Lets not start this shit here. I realize I was a bad a citizen over at the Zone and at the Range, but this is a smear that serves no purpose other than to belittle. I may have lots of disagreements with ICR, but why try to smear him? He has a lot of good things to say as well. Same for Jammy, Chickie, and others. Lets keep this place decent, if for no other reason than we don't want this place to become a noxious sewer like the range has become to or an authoritarian hellscape like the Zone has devolved into.
 
swiper said:
Let's start a pool. Play a game. PLACE bets to guess which SSRI ICRocket is supposed to be taking.
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I will play only if you can't use your own personal professional expertise here and elephant sized SSRI Suppositories that you routinely medically dislodge/remove from patient anuses are excluded from the pool.

That would NOT be fair.
 
herodotus said:
Lets not start this shit here. I realize I was a bad a citizen over at the Zone and at the Range, but this is a smear that serves no purpose other than to belittle. I may have lots of disagreements with ICR, but why try to smear him? He has a lot of good things to say as well. Same for Jammy, Chickie, and others. Lets keep this place decent, if for no other reason than we don't want this place to become a noxious sewer like the range has become to or an authoritarian hellscape like the Zone has devolved into.
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I like ICR.

He was one of the few posters I friended in Facebook.
 
SpikedLemonade said:
I like ICR.

He was one of the few posters I friended in Facebook.
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ICR is passionate to a fault. He loves the discussion and he is steadfast in his belief that he is right, and he often is. He is a firey person. There are times I want him to pull back because I don't want to see him disciplined, but I think he sometimes wears that as a badge of honor. Unrelenting.

Just like Michigan football.
 
cookin_peacocks said:
ICR is passionate to a fault. He loves the discussion and he is steadfast in his belief that he is right, and he often is. He is a firey person. There are times I want him to pull back because I don't want to see him disciplined, but I think he sometimes wears that as a badge of honor. Unrelenting.

Just like Michigan football.
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It has gone downhill since Tom Brady left them.
 
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