sukie
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But that alone doesn’t make those people violent and thriving criminals
America is Fucked
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Before credits, about $21K
I never said they were all violent offenders, but still, they ARE here illegally. They DID break the law as soon as they crossed the border and they are mostly unaccountable. Meanwhile there HAVE been violent criminals and people on watch lists who've been caught here
When was this?
60% of undocumented immigrants are visa overstays. They crossed the border 100% legally.
If you ACTUALLY had a problem with illegal immigration you'd stop hyperfixating on the border as its cause.
Blondie
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So you watched PEOPLE cross the border?? Please .. were you keeping a journal, what were they doing when they crossed?? A happy dance??
1990.
You understand you just made our point for us, right?
If people were crossing non-stop in 1990 and this "crisis" continues to this day to be hysteria with no actual stats reflecting economic burden or heightened criminal activity then illegal immigration is provably not the big deal you believe it is.
sukie
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So the solar prices coming done/ cheaper than traditional generation sources is greatly exaggerated.
No, driving off into the desert, riding motorcycles, walking, cars and trucks full of people, all headed towards San Diego. This went on all day, every day we were there. If you look at a map, the big warehouses there now are what we were building. I was an Iron Worker, then. There was a crew of iron workers on a project at the airport and some walked over looking for jobs. We had Mexicans working with us who translated they were making the equivalent of about $1 an hour US.
A few times border patrol would drive up, asking if we saw anyone cross and we'd tell them, they hadn't stopped crossing!
There was no barrier or anything then, just a shallow ditch that was the border
Blondie
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OK, I have a REAL comedy show we are headed out to watch here in town .. I will be back around 9pm
I'm sorry, but breaking the law is still breaking the law and in 1990, we didn't have the number of people crossing or the level of threats - as was posted above as we do now.
Except that the cost of energy will continue to go up. Ameren, the power company here has had two 40% increases in the last 2 years of just electric. This winter, they expect an similar raise in the cost of natural gas.
The credits are factored into those assertions.
Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. Do we have a "speeding crisis" in America?
What threats?
Damn right we do and people die from excessive speed or as victims of excessive greed, but I digress, I'll leave you with enough to watch and see both sides of the issue.
And I suggest watching this series.
Bald and Bankrupt
This is a MUST-WATCH series! Following the Migrant Trail from Venezuela to the Texas Border
buffalosportsvoice.com
So do you think anyone who is pulled over for speeding should get life in prison?Damn right we do and people die from excessive speed or as victims of excessive greed, but I digress, I'll leave you with enough to watch and see both sides of the issue.
And I suggest watching this series.
Bald and Bankrupt
This is a MUST-WATCH series! Following the Migrant Trail from Venezuela to the Texas Border
FBI director warns of 'dangerous individuals' coming across southern border
The six intelligence chiefs testified about "worldwide threats" on Monday.
"We have had dangerous individuals entering the United States have a variety of sources," Wray said at the annual "Worldwide Threats" congressional hearings at which the heads of U.S. intelligence agencies testify.
"We are seeing a wide array of very dangerous threats that emanate from the border, " he said, citing drug trafficking in particular. "The FBI alone seized enough fentanyl in the last two years to kill 270 million people," he said."
FACT CHECK: Have Terrorists Crossed The Southern Border?
'At least three terrorists have crossed the border illegally since 1975'
checkyourfact.com
Number of people on terror watchlist stopped at U.S. border has risen
So far in fiscal year 2023, 160 migrants whose identities match those on the list have been stopped trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border, compared to 100 in 2022.
www.nbcnews.com
More Migrants on Terrorism Watch List Crossed U.S. Border (Published 2023)
The numbers are a minuscule percentage of the total arrested after crossing the border, officials said.
Terrorists Crossing the US Border? Rising Numbers Explained (1)
DHS maintains that the rise in terrorist watch list hits simply corresponds to the overall increase in border crossings and each encounter doesn’t actually represent a terrorist attempting to enter the US.
The majority of drugs that cross the southern border do so at legal ports of entry and are smuggled by US citizens. This is not an illegal immigration problem.FBI director warns of 'dangerous individuals' coming across southern border
The six intelligence chiefs testified about "worldwide threats" on Monday.abcnews.go.com
"We have had dangerous individuals entering the United States have a variety of sources," Wray said at the annual "Worldwide Threats" congressional hearings at which the heads of U.S. intelligence agencies testify.
"We are seeing a wide array of very dangerous threats that emanate from the border, " he said, citing drug trafficking in particular. "The FBI alone seized enough fentanyl in the last two years to kill 270 million people," he said."
FACT CHECK: Have Terrorists Crossed The Southern Border?
'At least three terrorists have crossed the border illegally since 1975'
Number of people on terror watchlist stopped at U.S. border has risen
So far in fiscal year 2023, 160 migrants whose identities match those on the list have been stopped trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border, compared to 100 in 2022.
More Migrants on Terrorism Watch List Crossed U.S. Border (Published 2023)
The numbers are a minuscule percentage of the total arrested after crossing the border, officials said.www.nytimes.com
Terrorists Crossing the US Border? Rising Numbers Explained (1)
DHS maintains that the rise in terrorist watch list hits simply corresponds to the overall increase in border crossings and each encounter doesn’t actually represent a terrorist attempting to enter the US.news.bloomberglaw.com
Like seriously, think about this for 3 seconds. If you were a major cartel, why the fuck would you use undocumented people as your coyotes instead of citizens? Why would you INVITE the risk of added scrutiny on your pipeline? That would just be managerial ineptitude.
You did a good job of only focusing on one thing - which you're only partially correct about.
The fact is the Cartels have been shipping drugs here the same way to the same level of drug "lords" in this country for generations and much of it doesn't even come over the southern border, it comes down through Vancouver and the Northwest border.
Bravo on your selective arguing