Trump Condemns Trans Prisoners to Death

Trump restores single-sex prisons, sending male inmates who identify as women back to men’s facilities​

President Donald Trump has reinstated single-sex prison policies, resulting in the transfer of male inmates who identify as women back to male facilities.

According to a report by the New York Times, approximately 1,500 male federal prisoners identifying as women will be redirected to men’s facilities following President Trump’s executive order aimed at establishing single-sex prisons.

This executive order, titled “Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government,” also terminates transgender-related medical procedures for incarcerated individuals.

The Women’s Liberation Front (WoLF), a feminist organization advocating for single-sex prison systems and raising awareness regarding the vulnerability of incarcerated women to male violence,

has characterized President Trump’s decision as a significant victory. Currently, WoLF is actively engaged in efforts to challenge California legislation that permits inmates to request placement in facilities based on their gender identity rather than their biological sex.

Mr. Trump’s directive aligns with assertions that efforts to eliminate the biological reality of sex fundamentally undermine the dignity, safety, and well-being of women.

Advocates representing transgender individuals and inmates have criticized this order, asserting that it will place vulnerable populations at an increased risk of harm.

Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, which has advocated for transgender prisoners, stated, “There will be rapes and physical assaults as a result of this policy.”

She further noted the adverse impact on prison officials, who currently possess the discretion to determine the most appropriate measures for ensuring the safety and security of their facilities.

Legal experts have indicated that this directive is likely to face challenges in the judicial system.

Federal courts have established that prison systems have an obligation to protect vulnerable inmates and have also ruled that they must provide medical care,

including hormone therapies, to individuals diagnosed with gender dysphoria—the psychological distress arising from a dissonance between one’s physical body and gender identity.

In 2022, a federal district judge in Illinois mandated that the bureau provide gender-transition surgery to a transgender inmate, concluding that the denial of such treatment likely constituted a violation of the Eighth Amendment, which ensures the right to necessary medical care.
 
Dysophoria is a mental condition. Gender dysporia is a mental illness for billing purposes only so insurance may cover care.

Mental illness and mental disorder are the same thing but one is less stigmatizing. Just like alcoholism is a compulsive disorder along with a chemical addictive part but it is diagnosed as a disease , again, for billing and coverage purposes.
 
Exhibit “B” Above.

Substance… a grunt, a slurping of drool, a sound that cartoon characters make after an anvil falls on their head… anything of substance… anything at all.
 
Dysophoria is a mental condition. Gender dysporia is a mental illness for billing purposes only so insurance may cover care.

Mental illness and mental disorder are the same thing but one is less stigmatizing. Just like alcoholism is a compulsive disorder along with a chemical addictive part but it is diagnosed as a disease , again, for billing and coverage purposes.
This is pretty much dead accurate.
 
Calling people names and belittling is also a mental illness under the subcategory douchebag syndrome. Symptoms include emoji bombs and small genitalia
Important to note, it's not necessary to fit all the symptoms.

I don't emoji bomb.
 
It's just insane to me that there are people who think being trans is a delusion when we have trans people like Arden and Ben here talking about their experiences so TRANSPARENTLY rationally.

Listen to the call at 1:35:30 with Michael. This is not delusion. It's just a slice of the human experience you've never had.

 
Let me see here .... IC going around calling people Nazis for one. Which by the way is no different than calling someone the n word. I have no issue with you so please stay out of it. I took my shot and hopefully it's done now.

Yeah, what’s good for goose is good for the fat gaspasser.
 
I have him on ignore, but it should be noted that the person Tater objected to me calling a Nazi was.....Adolf Hitler.

Just so we're clear about the level of dipshit we're dealing with here.
 
But you're not telling me I'm wrong. That's the difference here.

All you're doing is saying "I will not be changing my mind so it's pointless to talk about this". I also don't expect my mind to change, but it's because I have reality on my side. So I am going to continue to try to change your mind because I understand that it's important for you to change your mind. The future of humanity depends on people like you changing their minds.

Trans people are the "first they came for..." under Trump. Educated people know what happens if we don't stop it here. If you don't change your mind, you won't try to stop it until he goes after a group you don't want dead and by then it'll be too late.
No, I WILL try to stop it because I don't condemn people for being Trans and I'm overall someone who believes in people having the right to be who they want to be and do what they want to do until it becomes dangerous to other people or self-destructive.

It IS pointless to keep talking about this. You are an over-the-top advocate for the Trans issue and Trans people and fine. That's your thing and anyone who's spent any real amount of time on these forums with you understands this. The problem is that your reality is not everyone's reality. That people are allowed to have their own opinions about people who are Trans and everything that comes with it.

You believe in Trans kids, I do not. You say you have science backing you, I say I have science backing me on that topic. Maybe we BOTH have science that supports our views on that topic. Which is something you would never agree to so yeah, it's pointless to keep spending time and energy saying the same things over and over.
 
The trans debate is so simple. Does it impact you? No? Ok, sit down now.

I hate the fact that I have to advocate for trans people. They're just freaking people. Mutter to yourself if you must, but that should be the end of it
 
The trans debate is so simple. Does it impact you? No? Ok, sit down now.

I hate the fact that I have to advocate for trans people. They're just freaking people. Mutter to yourself if you must, but that should be the end of it
You don’t have to advocate for anybody, you choose to. Admirably so but don’t feel like you’re being forced to do anything.

Purpose of a message board or a discussion forum is to discuss. Or not discuss.Am I not right?
 
You don’t have to advocate for anybody, you choose to. Admirably so but don’t feel like you’re being forced to do anything.

Purpose of a message board or a discussion forum is to discuss. Or not discuss.Am I not right?
I'm not mad at you. I'm just speaking in general..

But I do think you should consider these points. No one thinks you are going to switch your complete position in seconds. But the first step towards seeing a different picture is to open your mind to an alternate POV.

I know several trans people and they're scared, angry, hurt. And they're just.... People. Living their best life. And I love them dearly and I fear for them.
 
I'm not mad at you. I'm just speaking in general..

But I do think you should consider these points. No one thinks you are going to switch your complete position in seconds. But the first step towards seeing a different picture is to open your mind to an alternate POV.

I know several trans people and they're scared, angry, hurt. And they're just.... People. Living their best life. And I love them dearly and I fear for them.
I've known Trans people, too. It's not new to me. And ICR and I have gone round and round on this for several years. My position isn't to vilify Transd people, it's to find the reason they believe they're Trans in the first place and to present ideas on why I believe not all people who identify as Trans are genuinely Trans.

Case in point. In my 30's when I was obsessively health conscious, I was exposed to a lot of stories of people who were bulimic and anorexic. I couldn't understand how that happened. How people can starve themselves to death but I was also terrified of putting on weight and being a truck driver at the time, made it even more difficult so I tried forcing myself to vomit after any unhealthy foods I ate. It was a forced behavior that I recognized as not me being bulimic but taking on the practice, temporarily, of such. It was peer pressure and a problem with my self-image that pushed me into that pool. Why can't you accept that the same thing happens in some people who choose to identify as Trans?

After a while, I just got tired of shoving my fingers down my throat to barf - which, BTW, I had perfected in high school wrestling.

That's my view on the Trans issue. I've actually taken a step forward by admitting some people are truly and genetically Trans. But many are misled by social pressure, peer pressure, a vigorous medical and support community that is quick to latch onto anyone they can to push through the process based on financial gain or over-zealous advocacy.

You say Trans-regret is minimal and I say it's growing. Early records showed 1.5% detransitioning. The nearest I could find was 2023, when that number had grown to 3%.

So, we're both right and that's something ICR will never accept nor admit
 
You believe in Trans kids, I do not. You say you have science backing you, I say I have science backing me on that topic. Maybe we BOTH have science that supports our views on that topic. Which is something you would never agree to so yeah, it's pointless to keep spending time and energy saying the same things over and over.
So show me your science.
 
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